Crucial Fact

  • His favourite word was industry.

Last in Parliament May 2004, as Liberal MP for Dufferin—Peel—Wellington—Grey (Ontario)

Lost his last election, in 2004, with 39% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Budget Implementation Act, 1995 April 26th, 1995

Madam Speaker, I apologize. The member asked if that was the way I ran my farm. In 1984 I was a pig farmer. The draconian cuts he and his party are talking about would be the same as me saying that I am not going to pay the taxes on my farm, or my hydro bill or buy any clothes this year.

What they are talking about are targets that cannot be made. One of the things laid out in the budget is the fact that we are keeping our targets. In fact, we have set targets that are based on very pessimistic growth. Even the business community said that we were being pessimistic. Our targets are capped.

If the target is too low, by the time we get to 3 per cent of the GDP by 1996-97, which is what we promised in the red book and from our own pessimistic outlook, then if we go by what is happening in the business community and what they have been projecting, we will exceed 3 per cent. Is that not what it is all about, having a government that the voters know is a credible government if it comes forward with a budget, sets targets and achieves those targets?

For the last nine years voters have watched governments making promises in different budgets. Those promises were not kept. We were at the point where they were becoming cynical and saying that this was just another promise which was not credible.

That is not what this government is all about. We are where we are in the polls today because we are credible. We are making promises that we can keep.

Budget Implementation Act, 1995 April 26th, 1995

I went through this with my farm.

Budget Implementation Act, 1995 April 26th, 1995

The pension plan has been cut back also. I get a kick out of how cynical the member for Simcoe Centre can be at times. The member and I had the opportunity a couple of weeks ago to tour base Borden. This will give members a rough idea of the innovation I am talking about.

With the cuts that have been made to the Department of National Defence, base Borden at the present time is working in conjunction with Georgian College. The member knows this because we saw it. Base Borden is conducting welding classes as a way of utilizing the facilities. It is holding catering courses and courses for firefighting and for paramedical training. The member knows this.

This is all part of budget cuts and innovative thinking. This is what I am talking about if the member would just listen. We wanted to make sure the budget was fair to the taxpayer.

Budget Implementation Act, 1995 April 26th, 1995

Madam Speaker, I would like to speak to Bill C-76.

I just read something in Quorum : ``A new fever for frugality''. That is what we are talking about today. Among other things I have learned in my last 18 months as a politician are three words: imbalance, fluctuation and disturbance. These are three words that politicians hate to hear. They are also the basis for innovative and creative thinking. That is what the budget is showing right now.

The 1994-95 estimates show the first reduction in budgetary requirements in 20 years. In the next fiscal year spending here will drop by 6 per cent, and 3 per cent each year after. Senior employees on the House staff have been cut by 15 per cent. MPs remuneration, salaries, as an example, have been frozen and will remain frozen.

Budget Implementation Act, 1995 April 26th, 1995

Why did the member say it was a good program?

Farm Improvement And Marketing Cooperatives Loans Act April 24th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, about three or four weeks ago I was up in the Collingwood area and I had a chance to tour an apple packing factory. It was busting at the seams. Business was really good. It has been very innovative. It is squeezing apples for apple juice. It has come up with a couple of combination ideas using carrots for carrot juice. It was actually getting to the point where it was exporting. However, it was busting at the seams and needed capital to expand.

I would say to the hon. member that this is exactly what he is talking about. This apple factory is at the three year period and has to expand its business. It needs new machinery and needs to expand the building. There will be more jobs created from this.

I hope that has answered the hon. member's question.

Farm Improvement And Marketing Cooperatives Loans Act April 24th, 1995

I think it is worth about $7,000 or $8,000. I could make some money on it if I sold it but it is a very proud possession of mine.

The program is designed to increase the availability of credit to farmers and farmer owned co-operatives at a reasonable interest rate to improve farm assets and strengthen production and financial stability.

This act was amended in 1987 by increasing the maximum amount of outstanding loans for borrowers from $100,000 to $250,000. It introduced fixed rate loans and loan consolidation and refinancing. It expanded the scope of the act to allow for loan guarantees up to $3 million to farmer owned marketing co-operatives and for value added marketing, processing or distribution projects. It introduced a registration fee of one-half of 1 per cent of the loan amount.

Since February 1988 when the above noted amendments came into effect more than 65,000 loans representing more than $1.5 billion have been made under the act. Since 1990 over 55,000 loans have been made to utilize the act. There are currently 10 active value added co-operative loans totalling $14.2 million. Personally, I believe that value added marketing is the wave of the future. We will see this area grow significantly in the years ahead.

Last year, this act was used to facilitate more than 18,000 loans totalling more than $475 million. The average loan size for 1994-95 was $27,000 and the five year average is $22,000.

Over the last 25 years, net losses under the act have approximated 1 per cent of the total loan guarantees. There are currently two one time fees paid by the borrower. The first is the loan registration fee which is forwarded to Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada of one-half of 1 per cent of the loan amount. The second is an administration fee which is paid to the lender, the lesser of one-half of 1 per cent or $250 on loans less than $250,000, or one-tenth of 1 per cent on loans of $250,000 or more.

The maximum rates of interest which can be charged by lenders are prime plus 1 per cent on a floating rate basis and prime plus 1 per cent plus one-quarter of 1 per cent for each year of a term loan. For example, that would be prime plus two and one-quarter per cent for a five year term loan. For a loan of $27,000 the cost would be approximately an extra $67. Approximately 683 rural lenders, such as credit unions, have been newly designated as lenders under the act since 1991.

Under the existing act, once the five year $1.5 billion loan guarantee limit is reached, the federal government would no longer be in a position to guarantee loans made by the lenders.

This would make any further new loans under the act impossible. Therefore, it is essential to have an amendment to the act which will increase the five year loan limit to $3 billion.

Having shared with members how I view the importance of this program, I do not believe the major banks have shared my opinion. I do not believe the banks have made sufficient progress in improving access to capital for the agriculture community. In fact, it has been suggested that the banks discourage the use of this loan act in favour of loans which would bring the banks larger profits.

More must be done to address the credit needs of agriculture. It is imperative. Just as the banks have been slow to finance small business, the same holds true for agricultural co-operatives. The banks have acknowledged though that they can do a better job of lending to agriculture and have taken a number of steps to improve this situation. However, we continue to receive the message from the agriculture community that more needs to be done.

As a member of the federal Ontario Liberal task force on access to capital to small business, I heard a litany of anecdotal evidence indicating the banks' indifference to small business. As a farmer, I was quite aware that many of the concerns of small business were the same for agriculture.

While it is difficult to document the validity of each individual claim, the volume of complaints certainly depicts an uneasy relationship with the banking institutions. I hope that situation will be improved now that we have the banks' attention with the levying of the temporary capital tax on large deposit-taking institutions in the finance minister's 1995 budget.

The government will be working with the banks to develop appropriate benchmarks for small business. I would define small business as including agriculture. We promised in the red book that we would take steps to increase capital availability in rural areas. We are keeping that promise with the passage of Bill C-75.

I encourage all members of the House to indicate their support of the agriculture community by supporting this bill.

Farm Improvement And Marketing Cooperatives Loans Act April 24th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I rise today to speak in support of Bill C-75, an act to amend the Farm Improvement and Marketing Co-Operatives Loans Act.

I would like to begin by commenting on the importance of affordable financing for the agriculture community. I remember one of my first encounters with the banks and how without the farm improvement loan I would have been at the mercy of the fickle finger of finance. It is quite possible that without the loans act not only I but many farmers would not have been able to farm quite the same way we do today. I would like to expand on that.

In 1973 I came back from Stelco and began farming. At that time I took out a farm improve loan in the amount of $5,400 for a 165 Massey-Ferguson tractor and a four-furrow plough. I know the member for Malpeque wishes there were farm deals like that today but there are not. In our farming operations today we market 360,000 chickens a year, over one million pounds of meat. I still have that 165 Massey-Ferguson tractor. It is something that brings this home to me.

Supply April 4th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I did not get a chance to listen to the first part of the hon. member's speech, but I did hear the last part where he was talking about supply management. He said that in his opinion supply management will be gone in a few short years.

One of the ministers who helped negotiate this is just leaving. I would like to know what the hon. member bases that assumption on, that in fact supply management is gone or is going to go, considering that I feel we had a very successful round of negotiations at the GATT and in fact supply management is very well protected, thank you very much.

Maybe the member can tell me what he bases that assumption on.

Budget Implementation Act, 1995 March 30th, 1995

Madam Speaker, if I could give the hon. member answers to question like that, I would be a millionaire in the stock markets.

We have listened to the forecast from the private sector as to what the anticipated growth will be for this year and next year. Our assumptions have been lower than that.

I will crunch some figures. We started 1994-95 setting our budget figures at $39.7 billion. That was to be the deficit. By 1996-97 the figure is being set at around $24.3 billion. That is a $15.4 billion cut over two years. We know we are adding to the accumulated public debt which is also costing us.