Crucial Fact

  • His favourite word was court.

Last in Parliament October 2000, as Reform MP for Crowfoot (Alberta)

Lost his last election, in 2000, with 6% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Firearms Act June 12th, 1995

moved:

Motion No. 79

That Bill C-68, in Clause 47, be amended in the English version, by replacing line 4, on page 29, with the following:

"certificate for a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm for the period for".

Motion No. 81

That Bill C-68, in Clause 49, be amended by replacing lines 11 and 12, on page 29, with the following:

"49. A customs officer shall inform a chief firearms officer without delay of the exportation or".

Motion No. 82

That Bill C-68, in Clause 50, be amended by replacing line 15, on page 29, with the following:

"50. A chief firearms officer shall inform the member".

Motion No. 85

That Bill C-68, in Clause 52, be amended by replacing lines 8 to 13, on page 30, with the following:

"a chief firearms officer."

Motion No. 87

That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 53.

Motion No. 88

That Bill C-68, in Clause 53, be amended by replacing lines 132 and 33, on page 30, with the following:

"53. (1) A chief firearms officer may require an applicant for a".

Motion No. 91

That Bill C-68, in Clause 58, be amended by replacing lines 6 to 10, on page 32, with the following:

"58. A chief firearm officer is responsible for issuing registration certificates for prohibited firearms or restricted firearms and assigning firearms identification numbers to them and for issuing authorizations to export and authorizations to import."

Firearms Act June 12th, 1995

moved:

Motion No. 77

That Bill C-68, in Clause 45, be amended by replacing lines 28 to 30, on page 28, with the following: f ) provides a chief firearms officer with the prescribed information and other information required by that officer.''

Firearms Act June 12th, 1995

moved:

Motion No. 56

That Bill C-68, in Clause 32, be amended by replacing line 7, on page 22 with the following:

"(ii) in the case of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, lends the borrower the registration".

Motion No. 60

That Bill C-68, in Clause 33, be amended by replacing line 18, on page 22, with the following: a ) in the case of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, the transferor''.

Motion No. 69

That Bill C-68, in Clause 40, be amended in the English version, by replacing lines 38 and 39, on page 26, with the following:

"same effect as a registration for a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm for the period for which the confirma-".

Motion No. 70

That Bill C-68, in Clause 41, be amended by replacing lines 41 and 42, on page 26, with the following:

"41. A customs officer shall inform a chief firearms officer without delay of the exportation or".

Motion No. 71

That Bill C-68, in Clause 43, be amended by replacing lines 13 and 14, on page 27, with the following: a ) in the case of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, holds the registration certificate for the prohibited firearm or the restricted firearm;''.

Motion No. 73

That Bill C-68, in Clause 43, be amended by replacing lines 31to 33, on page 27, with the following: e ) provides a chief firearms officer with the prescribed information and any other information required by that officer.''

Firearms Act June 12th, 1995

moved:

Motion No. 24

That Bill C-68, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 3, on page 11, with the following:

"province."

Motion No. 28

That Bill C-68, in Clause 13, be amended by replacing line 24, on page 14, with the following:

"registration certificate for a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm unless the".

Motion No. 29

That Bill C-68, in Clause 14, be amended by replacing lines 27 to 32, on page 14, with the following:

"14. A registration certi-ficate may be issued only for a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm a ) that bears a serial number sufficient to distinguish it from other prohibited firearms or restricted firearms; or b ) that is described by one or more of the fol-lowing characteristics:

(i) its make,

(ii) its model,

(iii) the name of its manufacturer,

(iv) the length of its barrel,

(v) its calibre, or

(vi) its assembly number."

Motion No. 41

That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 25.

Motion No. 42

That Bill C-68, in Clause 25, be amended by replacing lines 20 and 21, on page 18, with the following:

"or to a police force if the person informs a chief firearms officer of the transfer and complies with the".

Motion No. 43

That Bill C-68, in Clause 26, be amended by replacing lines 32 and 33, on page 18, with the following:

"proposed transfer of a prohibited fire-arm, restricted firearm, prohibited weapon, prohibited device, ammunition or".

Motion No. 45

That Bill C-68, in Clause 26, be amended by replacing lines 19 to 21, on page 19 with the following: c ) decide whether to approve the transfer or importation; and''.

Motion No. 49

That Bill C-68, in Clause 30, be amended by replacing line 17, on page 21, with the following:

"transfer of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, the Registrar may".

Motion No. 50

That Bill C-68, in Clause 30, be amended by replacing line 17, on page 21, with the following:

"transfer of a firearm, a chief firearms officer may".

Motion No. 51

That Bill C-68, in Clause 30, be amended by replacing line 23, on page 21, with the following:

"prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm to Her Majesty in right of Canada or".

Motion No. 52

That Bill C-68, in Clause 30, be amended by replacing line 24, on page 21, with the following:

"province or to a police force, a chief firearms officer".

Firearms Act June 12th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I understand some of those are my motions and I have not withdrawn any. I am not aware of anyone withdrawing them on my behalf either.

I was looking at a past Order Paper, not today's. I am in error and I withdraw my intervention.

Firearms Act June 12th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. Could we have a clarification on the withdrawal of those other motions? I am unaware of any withdrawal.

Firearms Act June 12th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I will begin by touching on the inconsistencies that I see and the reasoning behind this bill.

Inconsistencies always bother me because fact should support fact and truth should support truth. An inconsistency indicates that fact is not supporting fact. I am concerned about that.

The two inconsistencies are these. If the justice minister and the government truly believe that the registration of rifles and shotguns will reduce the criminal use of those firearms and save lives, why are we waiting until the year 2003 to make it mandatory? Why are we waiting that long to begin to save lives and create a safer society?

The other inconsistency is that 58 per cent of the handguns that have been legally acquired and legally held are to be banned. Why? Because they pose a danger to society. Yet those handguns are not to be taken from society, they are to left in society. They are to be grandfathered.

Why would the government, if it honestly believes that 58 per cent of handguns held today in society are a danger to society, then why would it allow them to remain in society?

I will have more to say at third reading about the bill. I will begin my address to Bill C-68 at report stage by taking cognizance of those two very glaring inconsistencies behind the rationale of the bill as presented by the government.

I am opposed to a system of registration of rifles and shotguns as outlined in Bill C-68. I am also opposed to the draconian inspection powers and the absurd penalties provided for anyone who fails to register a rifle or a shotgun.

Canada has some of the most stringent gun regulations in the world now. Some 60 pages in the Criminal Code deal with the acquisition, ownership and use of firearms, and we want to add a whole bundle more.

We do not need further controls on law-abiding gun owners. We need the enforcement of the present laws and to get tough with the criminal use of firearms. Canadians have been demanding changes to the justice system in this country for years. All they have received are weak-kneed, bleeding heart policies that further erode the objective of justice, which is to reduce crime.

The present and past governments have used gun control to make Canadians believe they are doing something about crime in Canada when they are not.

Bill C-68 is not a gun control bill. It is not going to control guns; it is going to register them. There is a huge difference between the two.

Bill C-68 is nothing more than a pretence that the government is making our homes and streets safer and getting tough on criminals.

I recall Lynda Haverstock, the leader of the Saskatchewan Liberal Party, when she appeared before the standing committee stated in effect that the federal government was spreading misinformation by claiming Bill C-68 would reduce suicide and domestic violence that involved firearms. I agree with this observation.

The bill creates false hopes in the minds of Canadians about what it will do in terms of making our homes and streets safer, hope that will never be realized through this bill because it does not address the cause of suicide or the cause of domestic violence.

As the auditor general concluded in his 1993 report: "Our review of the new regulations indicated that important data needed to assess the potential benefits and future effectiveness of the regulations were not available at the time the regulations were drafted. The government proceeded with new regulations for reasons of public policy".

The government is doing exactly the same thing. There is not a statistical justification for bringing in a universal registration system, and yet we see that as the central pillar in Bill C-68.

The voters have awakened. They cannot be placated by pretentious pieces of legislation. Canadians want concrete measures effectively aimed at reducing crime. The Ontario and Manitoba elections demonstrate quite clearly that the citizens of these provinces reject the Liberal form of justice. They reject the Liberal tendencies to make offenders' rights supersede the rights of victims.

Canadians must be able to see that the measures introduced by the government will meet the objective of reducing crime before legislation is passed, not after. Through common sense appraisal of the law they must be able to see that it will be of benefit to them, their families and their communities.

The justice minister has not provided any statistical information to justify the implementation of these draconian measures in this bill, although he has repeatedly been asked to do so. He has not effectively demonstrated the link between registering firearms and a reduction in crime. That is what the attorneys general from the three western prairie provinces addressed when they appeared before the standing committee. There was no linkage they could see between the registration of rifles and shotguns and the reduction in the criminal use of these firearms.

Not one witness who appeared before the standing committee could provide any substantive evidence that registration would reduce the criminal use of these firearms. No one could demonstrate how registration, the banning of .25 and .32 calibre handguns, the new licensing regime or the intrusive inspection powers will diminish the number of firearm crimes in this country.

What they did inadvertently illustrate was an unrealistic fear of firearms and an idealistic notion that by restricting ownership of firearms, criminals, those people who thrive on obtaining a valuable object to sell on the black market, would somehow be thwarted by such regulatory acts aimed at honest citizens, people who have owned and used firearms for years in a safe and legal manner.

To date it seems the only impetus for Bill C-68 is to fulfil the justice minister's original and unrealistic thought to have only the police and military possess firearms in this country.

Time today does not permit me to address and debate each of the Reform's amendments. The time allocation imposed by the Liberal government with the co-operation of the separatist Bloc party for both the report stage and the third reading of this bill denies me and my colleagues the opportunity to present evidence to substantiate our amendments or to represent the concerns of our constituents.

I object to the shameful and undemocratic methods employed by the government to ram this bill through Parliament. It is no secret that the government is having trouble keeping its caucus together on this issue. The threat of being kicked off a committee is hanging over every Liberal's head if they dare to represent their constituents by voting against the government and in accordance with the will of the majority of the people they represent.

I think the government is terrified to allow its MPs the opportunity to go home for the summer to consult constituents on Bill C-68, Bill C-41, or the government's pension bill. It knows that the more Canadians learn about Bill C-68, as was the case for the Charlottetown accord, the stronger the opposition will grow.

So much for the competence of the government. So much for the rhetoric that it has the support of Canadians. If it had the majority of Canadians on its side it would not be moving so quickly to have this bill passed, especially given the fact it will not be implemented until the year 2003.

Reform is opposed to Bill C-68 in many of its forms. Therefore, we will be voting against the vast majority of this bill at third reading. Our amendments tabled before the House are an attempt to make this draconian legislation more palatable for those firearm owners who will be burdened by red tape, costly controls of privately owned property, and intrusion into their lives.

Reforms' amendments in no way concede to the principle of more gun regulations in this country. We still maintain and are adamant that there is no need for the registration of rifles and shotguns.

I will have more time at third reading to address the concerns of our party with regard to this bill, which are reflected by the people all across the country.

I was in Stratford this weekend, and last weekend I was in Bridgewater, Nova Scotia. I have spoken to approximately 35,000 to 38,000 Canadians across the country who have all expressed the very same views and concerns. They are prepared to do whatever is reasonable and underlaid with common sense to bring about a safer use of firearms. However, they do not believe this bill will do that. They believe that it will do quite the opposite and simply encumber law-abiding citizens when it ought to be directing its efforts at those who would use firearms in a criminal manner.

Business Of The House June 9th, 1995

It will not come into effect for eight years.

Business Of The House June 9th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, when Bill C-68 came before this House everyone knew it was a very contentious bill. Yet all members were denied the opportunity to express the concerns of their constituents on that very extensive bill.

Then the bill was rushed into committee and a deadline was set for the committee hearings. I did not object to that. I was only concerned that we were able to get the necessary witnesses before the committee in order to consider their testimony. Then we were rushed into clause by clause on this committee.

I ask the solicitor general why that we are in such a rush to move such a huge bill through the House in such a hurry when it is not going to become mandatory until 2003. What is the rush? Why could we not at least allow that bill to be set over until this fall, when everyone would have an opportunity to examine the large number of amendments that will be tabled before this House on that bill?

I understand that there are well over 100 amendments. Yet time allocation is being imposed. Why is Bill C-68, many portions of which will not become mandatory for eight years, being looked at with such urgency? Why could we not relieve the demands upon the government, upon this House, and upon the members by simply allowing that bill to be moved and taken up when we resume sitting in the fall? I do not understand that. Would the solicitor general care to comment?

Gun Control June 9th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, if that were true then I would not be standing here asking about the cost of the program.

I have been told by the justice minister that he will not even reply to requests from some authorities in areas of the country regarding the failure of the federal government to reimburse them for the cost to administer the present gun control legislation.

Did the justice minister discuss with the provinces and the territories the additional cost of hiring and training the required gun inspectors before he imposed these conditions on them through his amendments to his gun control legislation?