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Crucial Fact

  • Her favourite word was provinces.

Last in Parliament May 2004, as Canadian Alliance MP for South Surrey—White Rock—Langley (B.C.)

Won her last election, in 2000, with 60% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Broadcasting Act April 26th, 1996

Mr. Speaker, I will also speak in favour of Bill C-216.

Bill C-216 is interesting in that it deals with regulating the broadcasting industry so it cannot bill somebody for something they really do not want. It cannot force somebody to take a service and then charge them for it unless that person indicates they do not want the service.

During the debate when this actually happened I was taken aback by the consumer response. My riding has two cable companies. One of the cable companies chose to use negative billing while the other company chose not to do so. It reminded me of when I was in municipal politics and was phoned at all hours of the day and night about barking dogs, garbage not being picked up, and all those other issues that hit so very close to a person's home and environment. This issue really seemed to catch consumers and get them up in arms trying to find some way to change the policy.

The amount of animosity from these individuals when they phoned my office, came to see me or wrote letters was interesting. What most concerned them was that the concept was supported by the regulating body. The CRTC supported it then and as I understand it the CRTC continues to support the concept of billing individuals for something unless they indicate they do not want it. The consumers had a feeling of helplessness in trying to deal with the issue. I find it a little distressing that a Canadian licensing body would support such a concept.

I heard the argument from across the way that it is important to protect Canadian content and our Canadian heritage through the broadcasting industry but I do not buy it. If Canadian content and Canadian culture is done properly, it will sell itself. People will be more than willing to pay for that programming and will want to watch it. Canadian artists do not need a regulating body which is forcing consumers to pay for something they do not want.

The Bloc member mentioned that Quebec and Nova Scotia had legislation in place which prevented this kind of negative option billing. What she failed to mention is that British Columbia also has legislation which prevents this kind of negative billing but only in some services. Unfortunately broadcasting falls under federal legislation and therefore the provinces do not have control over the broadcasting companies, such as the cable companies.

With the new conversation of today, the information highway, and the competition among the telephone companies, the satellite companies and the cable companies as to who is going to control the information highway, we should be looking at how they practise business. If there are companies in the cable industry which choose to exercise their monopoly and control over broadcasting and the delivery of this service to the consumer by using these kinds of practices, there are Canadians other than myself who would be very concerned about allowing them to control the new technology of the information highway.

We would be very uncomfortable with a company which thinks nothing of providing people with something they do not want without asking them, billing them for it and then hiding behind the federal regulatory body saying that it agrees so it is okay. I have extreme difficulty in suggesting that the Canadian government should be supporting cable companies having control over the information highway.

I want to get back to the two cable companies in my community, the one which chose to use negative billing and the one which chose not to do so. The reaction and attitude of the consumers to those two companies was interesting.

One local company chose to offer the new programming at an extra cost but provided it to the consumers I believe for a period of 60 days so that they could see what was offered on the new channels. The consumers appreciated that. They could decide whether or not they wanted to purchase the service. Consumers appreciated and supported that approach. I would imagine many consumers chose to take on these new channels.

On the other hand, consumers were outraged at being billed for something they did not want. However, if they asked not to have those new channels they would also lose channels they had previously and still wanted but which were tied into these new channels.

I do not think that is right. Consumers indicated to the companies which did this that they did not think it was right. Unfortunately the biggest voice consumers can have is to cancel their service or refuse to buy the product. That was precisely what I presented to them, that if they did not like what was happening, the consumer has a choice. That choice is to say they no longer want the services because they do not appreciate what you are doing.

These people will not have the choice anymore because, as in many other communities, one cable company has bought out other cable companies. In my community now there will be no choice. There will not be two cable companies to provide different ways of dealing with these situations. There will be a monopoly, a cable company with no competition to do whatever it wants.

Members of the Reform Party caucus will be quite interested in supporting Bill C-216. The bill proposes to amend the Broadcasting Act to disallow this type of negative billing. It will amend section 3 of the Broadcasting Act by providing in the context of broadcasting policy that a cable distributor or other distribution undertaking should not demand money from a person for the provisions or sale of a new programming service where the person has not agreed to receive the new service.

It is important that it will include other distribution undertakings. We have competition for control of the information highway. There are telephone companies and satellite companies that want to move into this new field.

This bill and the amendments it suggests would include any other companies coming into the system, be they telephone companies, satellite companies or more cable companies. I believe this is an important consideration for us today. It is clear to anyone who has taken an interest in this that there will be distribution companies outside of cable companies. This is very important, knowing what happened last year, to make sure it does not happen again by anyone involved in providing those services.

We are pleased to support this effort. We feel it will be an important contribution to the Broadcasting Act, even though many of us question whether the CRTC even has a place in Canadian society. It would put some controls on it. I believe that is important.

Budget Implementation Act, 1996 April 26th, 1996

Mr. Speaker, it is my pleasure to speak on this legislation which will allow the enactment of certain provisions of the budget for this year.

It distresses me somewhat when I talk to people who do not seem to understand the serious financial situation in which this country finds itself. I believe it was a Liberal government about 30 years ago that started us on some very serious deficit financing and that was carried on by the Conservative Mulroney government which preceded this Liberal government.

Canadians felt that when we entered into the election debate in 1993 that the people who now represent this government recognized that this trend to go into serious deficit budgeting had to stop. It distresses me that although we hear them talking about lowering the deficit from $40 billion to $38 billion or $36 billion that they seem to believe that is going to solve the problem. It will not.

Canadians are looking for a government that is committed to reducing government spending in very serious and real ways.

Speaking for voters and taxpayers of British Columbia, I know it concerns them when they see that the government seems to deal differently with different parts of the country.

The Liberals talk about things like equalization payments. There is a program which is supported by most if not all provinces where those provinces that do not have the ability to provide some of the basic services for their people that the taxpayers in those provinces who are in a better position economically are more than willing to add financial support to see that the basic services are provided to those have not provinces.

Not only is there this equalization payment act that allows for this up front, but we are also finding, over and over again, that in different government policy programs there continues to be special financial considerations for these other provinces above and beyond the equalization payments that fall under the equalization payment act.

The people in British Columbia are getting a little bit tired of carrying not only the additional burden under the equalization payments but a continual added burden in various legislation, whether it is the regional development grants, whether it is in the infrastructure program or whether it is the billion dollars that is going into Atlantic Canada to convince them to co-operate with the federal government in its harmonization of the GST and the provincial sales tax.

The people of British Columbia are getting tired of having to pay for these programs in order to convince the have not provinces to co-operate with the federal government. To be quite honest, it is not fair to the taxpayers of British Columbia to have to support the equalization payments which give money to the have not provinces. It is not fair to the taxpayers of British Columbia to have to support Quebec's $90 million grant for settlement services for their immigration program.

British Columbians know that the number of immigrants and refugees that province is going to be taking in is a very small portion of the total number of immigrants and refugees coming into Canada. It is not fair for taxpayers outside of the have not provinces to not only be hit with the equalization payments, but to continually support government programs which favour one region over another.

The west coast fishery is struggling. It is proposed that the fishing fleet be cut in half. Hundreds and hundreds of west coast fishermen will be put out of business. They will not be able to afford their boats, their homes or look after their families. What is the response of the federal government? To throw a few pennies in that direction compared to the financial and other support that went to the east coast fishery when it was in difficulty.

It is these inconsistencies in how the country is operated which promotes questions about being part of this country. Canadians do not understand the differences. Canadians do not understand why they pay for the equalization program, the Canada-Quebec accord and again for the billion dollar buyout of Atlantic Canada. They have paid for programs which built hockey rinks and boccie courts. I do not know what boccie is, but that is okay. I do not have the time to play it anyway.

Canadians do not understand how the government with a national debt I believe of $575 billion and growing, knowing that it is going to be $600 billion in debt in 1997, can continue to spend money for these programs at the expense of three provinces of the country.

It is also difficult for Albertans to understand how it could be hit with the national energy program, where it put $900 billion more into confederation that it has received. It is continually being asked to spend more and more to support government programs such as the billion dollar expenditure to convince some of the have not provinces to let the federal Liberal government walk all over them one more time.

I would suggest that with the exception of a few of the younger members of the House, the real tragedy is for the future generations. The real tragedy will be the young people of today who are having a difficult time affording a post-graduate education and when when they do get that education they are not able to find work. When they do find work it is at minimum wage which does not allow them to buy a house, buy a vehicle or establish a base to start a family. That is the real tragedy.

Part of the tragedy is that the federal government continues a process which expects those individuals who are already struggling to make their place in Canadian society to pay for programs and policies which they are not going to receive any benefit from. It is my children and my grandchildren who are going to see most of their income going to pay the debt of the federal government, the debt of the provincial government and to pay the cost of municipal government.

That is not fair. It is not fair to these young people who are looking to the future with some hope and excitement to find out that all they are doing is paying for programs of which I and my parents have had the benefit.

In my two and one-half years in this House I would like to say I have seen some change in attitude from the government side, but I cannot honestly say that I have. I do not see any difference between the Liberal government of today and the Brian Mulroney Conservative government of days gone by. It has an attitude of largesse when spending money, of not understanding that the government's money comes from the taxpayers and that the government does not have this great big money tree growing outside of Centre Block.

I can honestly say I do not see any difference in attitude and that is the greatest tragedy of all. We are no further ahead now than we were three or four years ago when the Canadian people said they

wanted something different. They wanted a government to take control of government spending.

Petitions April 26th, 1996

Mr. Speaker, the second petition contains 1,305 signatures.

The petitioners would like to be added to the growing list of petitioners calling on Parliament to enact legislation against serious personal injury crimes being committed by high risk offenders by permitting the use of post-sentence detention orders and specifically passing Bill C-240.

Bill C-240 has been renumbered to Bill C-254 in this session of Parliament.

Petitions April 26th, 1996

Mr. Speaker, I would like to present two petitions to the House today.

One petition contains 161 signatures of individuals from across British Columbia. The petitioners request that Parliament not increase the federal excise tax on gasoline and that it strongly consider reallocating its current revenues to rehabilitate Canada's crumbling national highways.

Vancouver International Airport April 25th, 1996

Mr. Speaker, today the Vancouver International Airport Authority celebrates the opening of its new international terminal building. This event marks a significant milestone for YVR, as the airport is known locally. In less than four years the authority has made the airport North America's premier Asia-Pacific gateway without government funds, subsidies or guarantees.

YVR has been an economic boon to the greater Vancouver area. It employs 17,000 people, and that number is projected to grow by 2,000 over the next four years.

This has been a win-win situation for everyone. The consumer, the airlines, the employees and even the federal government have benefited from YVR's privatization and local management. All this

without the scandal that has plagued the proposed sale of Toronto's Pearson airport.

The Liberal government should take a lesson from YVR. Privatization and decentralization work. Congratulations to the board of directors, the executive management and the employees of the Vancouver International Airport Authority on this auspicious occasion.

Corrections And Conditional Release Act March 29th, 1996

moved for leave to introduce Bill C-254, an act to amend the Corrections and Conditional Release Act and the Criminal Code.

Mr. Speaker, this bill is identical to Bill C-240 which was introduced in the first session of this Parliament on April 22, 1994.

Pursuant to the order made on March 4, I am requesting that this bill be reinstated to the same position it was prior to prorogation.

The bill seeks to amend both the Criminal Code and the Corrections and Conditional Release Act. It would allow for post-sentence detention orders. Currently a dangerous offender designation can be sought only at the time of sentencing, which occasionally requires our justice system to release offenders who are deemed high risk to commit further serious offences.

The bill would permit the authorities to seek a dangerous offender designation against these individuals in the last year of their sentence. I humbly request that it go back where it was before prorogation.

(Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed.)

Canadian Security Intelligence Service March 29th, 1996

Mr. Speaker, the minister keeps saying "trust me, trust CSIS and trust SIRC", but trust must be earned.

Has all the information in the documents the minister has tabled in the House of Commons from CSIS and SIRC been completely accurate?

Canadian Security Intelligence Service March 29th, 1996

Mr. Speaker, when it comes to issues of national security the solicitor general has taken the approach that Canadians will just have to trust the public statements from CSIS, SIRC and him.

The minister is so secretive that he has even denied the national security subcommittee unexpurgated copies of his ministerial directives to CSIS, although his Conservative predecessors gave the subcommittee full access.

Can the minister explain why he is so intent on keeping secrets from members of the House?

Canadian Security Intelligence Service March 28th, 1996

Mr. Speaker, it is the minister's responsibility to look after the national security of this country.

SIRC has admitted that after hearing eight witnesses over a five-day period that it shared my concerns about the activities of the individual concerned, but since it was unable to find a smoking gun it could not confirm the allegation. When Pierre Roy was getting close to finding a smoking gun, suddenly he was ordered by CSIS management in headquarters to stop his investigation.

Can the minister possibly explain why this investigation was terminated?

Canadian Security Intelligence Service March 28th, 1996

Mr. Speaker, yesterday the Solicitor General of Canada accused me of not knowing about the former CSIS employee's departure from the service, yet today he is quoted in the media saying that he is unaware of the circumstances surrounding the individual's departure.

Let me tell him what really happened. The service forced him into retirement more than two months ago but granted him full pension.

Can the minister explain why he failed to provide this information to the House when he was given chances to do it?