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Last in Parliament October 2000, as Progressive Conservative MP for Tobique—Mactaquac (New Brunswick)

Lost his last election, in 2000, with 33% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Income Tax Act April 30th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, in December of 1989 our Progressive Conservative government announced a compensation package for all victims of HIV tainted blood. This package was universal and compassionate. Justice Horace Krever in his report asked that a compensation package for hepatitis C victims be universal and the health minister himself promised these victims that it would be compassionate. This package is neither.

The health minister put on his lawyer's hat and drew an arbitrary line of January 1, 1986, not based on doing what is right, but doing what he thinks he can get away with. The result is that 40,000 innocent victims, who through no fault of their own were infected with this fatal disease, are being abandoned by this heartless health minister who cares more about the government's wallet than he does about our health care system.

When thousands of Canadians, through no fault of their own, suffered as a result of the Saguenay and Manitoba floods did the government say “It is not our fault so we will not pay”? No. It helped everyone.

When millions of Canadians suffered injuries as a result of the ice storms in eastern Ontario, Quebec and the maritimes this year did the government try to weasel out of helping those victims because it did not cause the disaster? No. It put together a compensation package that was universal and compassionate.

Just this morning the immigration minister stated “If you stand on principle and have political courage then you must be willing to pay the price”. I could not agree more. Unfortunately, the government has demonstrated that it is completely devoid of principles, has no courage and is definitely not willing to pay the price.

For the last month the health minister has tried to hide behind the ten provinces who, because of the 40% cut in health transfers, had no choice but to sign on to his bargain basement package. Now we see that the health minister's house of cards is beginning to fall.

Yesterday the Quebec National Assembly passed a unanimous resolution calling on the government to compensate all hepatitis C victims. This morning the province of Ontario, this afternoon the province of Alberta and about half an hour ago the province of British Columbia echoed that same request.

The only time this government shows compassion to Canadians is at election time. What is left now for these victims is that they will have to spend precious years of what is left of their lives in court fighting for compensation which they should rightfully receive. Undoubtedly, many will win those court cases and because the government will have to pay millions of dollars in legal fees the package will ultimately end up costing much more than any universal compensation package that could be announced now.

These victims want and deserve to be compensated. Judge Krever wants all victims to be compensated. The provinces want all victims to be compensated. Canadians want all victims to be compensated. Even the Liberal government's own backbenchers want all victims to be compensated.

The question is, will the health minister do the principled thing, do the politically courageous thing, do the right thing and pay the price? From one human being to another, will he renegotiate the hepatitis C compensation package? It is time for this health minister to shape up or ship out.

Housing Co-Operatives April 28th, 1998

Madam Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to thank the members of the Reform Party, the NDP and the Bloc for supporting my private member's motion because this is a very important issue for co-op housing.

I wish I could say the same about the parliamentary secretary on the government side. It is typical that when we have a program that works well, the Liberals want to destroy it.

I heard what my colleague, the parliamentary secretary, said. I just do not agree. I believe there will be a devolution of social housing which will threaten co-ops. What we are saying is that there will be a loss of control.

I put forth five points.

The first one is that existing contracts are not protected under the new social housing agreements. Second, the provinces can unilaterally alter the operating agreements. Third, the co-op residents were not consulted on these agreements. Fourth, agreements do not protect the co-ops' autonomy. Fifth, co-ops can be lumped in with other social housing programs. A sixth point is that there will be a loss of financial security.

I will outline two points: federal contributions will dwindle as current funding expires and, two, new social housing agreements now require the provinces to replace funding.

A new independent, regionally based, non-profit co-operative housing agency will offer the federal government an affordable way to protect public investment in co-op housing and to ensure that public funds directed to co-op programs are spent as intended and properly accounted for.

Housing Co-Operatives April 28th, 1998

moved:

That, in the opinion of this House, the government should take all necessary steps to ensure the continued viability of housing co-operatives administered by the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation.

Mr. Speaker, in 1884 Abraham Lincoln said: “Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another, but let him work diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence when built”.

It was in that spirit of citizens supporting one another and by extension the community that the co-operative housing movement in Canada was born in the 1930s. Sixty years later, the viability of co-op housing is being seriously threatened through government neglect.

I want to take a few minutes to explain how this has come about and what can be done to repair the situation. I will start by outlining a brief history of co-op housing in Canada and show why it has been such a success story compared to other forms of social housing. I will then proceed to talk about the current move to devolve social housing to the provinces and the negative effects this will have on co-ops. Finally, I will outline an alternative solution that has the potential to not only save the federal government money but also save the co-ops.

The co-op housing movement began in the 1930s when Canadians in the maritimes, Quebec and Ontario built houses collectively for private ownership. It expanded with the construction of student co-operatives in the 1940s and family co-ops in the 1960s. The federal government got involved by supporting co-operative housing financially in Canada in 1970 through the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation. CMHC has called co-ops one of the great success stories in Canadian housing. Its record is especially enviable when we compare it to the federal government's track record on other forms of social housing.

Let me explain how co-ops work. Co-operative housing is affordable, not for profit housing owned and operated by its members. Residents pay housing charges and have the right to permanent residency as long as they respect the obligations of membership which they have a say in setting.

Joint ownership eliminates the insecurity of the rental market by putting control of the housing in the hands of the members. Each member has one vote in making decisions on important matters such as housing charges, the election of directors and the rules and regulations members will be expected to follow.

Members share common goals in the management of their co-operatives and a sense of community arises from working together. Members of housing co-ops often assist each other in ways beyond their housing needs. Housing co-ops have helped maintain or rebuild communities threatened by decay or urban renewal.

Within budget limits co-ops seek to provide high quality housing both in initial construction and through continuing maintenance. Co-ops are required to maintain capital reserves for the replacement of worn out buildings and equipment.

As I have mentioned, co-ops are radically different from other types of assisted housing providers. Only co-ops are committed to hiring and empowering ordinary Canadians to manage their own housing. Members learn skills that help them break the poverty cycle, enabling them to reduce dependence on government support.

Co-op members do not live in low income ghettos but in mixed income communities. Just over half the nearly 90,000 households receive rent geared to income assistance from the federal or the provincial government. In federally sponsored co-operatives assistance is provided to more than twice as many households as required by their operating agreements with CMHC at no extra cost to taxpayers.

Members manage subsidies economically on the government's behalf. CMHC says: “Co-operatives have been highly successful at achieving income mixing without polarization of income groups. Income was basically a non-issue for members”.

Not only have co-ops been successful in social integration, they are also the most inexpensive to operate of all forms of social housing. Operating costs are 19% less than municipal or private not for profit housing and 71% less than government owned and operated public housing. These cost saving benefits are shared with taxpayers since lower operating costs reduce the government's rent geared to income subsidy bill. Because they spend less than other housing providers and reinvest their operating surpluses, housing charges stay low. As time passes co-ops need smaller and smaller government subsidies.

However, despite all their success housing co-operatives in Canada now face a serious threat to their continued existence: devolution to the provinces. In March 1996, with very little public discussion, the government announced that it would make an effort to turn over the management of existing federal social housing resources to the 12 provinces and territories. In the two years since, agreements have been signed with Saskatchewan, Newfoundland, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and the Northwest Territories which would see these governments assume responsibility for public housing, private non-profit housing as well as co-ops.

In general I support the devolution of social housing administration to the provinces. I have always believed that the level of government that can best serve the needs of its clients should be the one to manage that program. But the inclusion of co-op housing in this devolution creates some serious problems for co-operatives and their members.

The two main issues for co-op members are loss of control and loss of financial security. At present members manage their own affairs, which helps to foster community pride and a sense of ownership. The new agreements threaten that control in five ways.

First, existing contracts between CMHC and the co-operatives are not protected under the new social housing agreements. According to law professor Patrick Monahan of Osgoode Hall Law School, while the agreements address the issues and concerns of the provinces and CMHC, they fail to offer legally binding protection for the co-ops that actually own and manage the housing facilities. This effectively gives the provinces complete control over the programs.

Second, the provinces can unilaterally alter the operating agreements between the co-ops and the governments. Professor Monahan found that if any of the provincial legislators were to enact legislation overriding or amending the terms of such project operating agreements, the provincial governments would not be in breach of their obligations under the new social housing government agreements.

Third, co-op residents were neither permitted to sit at the negotiating table as these deals were made nor were they even consulted in the discussions. Agreements that have been signed to date and those currently under negotiation have been worked out behind closed doors. This excludes a significant group of stakeholders: the women and men who live in, own and manage this housing. These groups are the primary partners in the successful delivery of these programs but they have not been consulted.

The new agreements could also affect the character and quality of federally funded co-ops. There are real concerns among co-operatives that the new agreements will lead to the erosion of their autonomy as property owners, especially when it comes to day to day management decisions.

The failure to protect the existing contractual rights of co-operatives makes these concerns very real. What the provinces view as flexibility in the agreements, co-op members see as an invitation to intrude. Any careful reading of the history of co-op housing will show that the greater the degree of government intrusion the less efficiently co-ops operate.

Finally, lumping co-ops in with other forms of social housing which are being downloaded to the provinces will increase costs. Consolidating the control of shared cost programs such as public housing with one level of government will reduce program administration costs.

However very few co-operative housing units receiving federal support were initiated under these shared cost programs. The remainder are unilaterally federally funded. The transfer of management of these programs to 12 provinces and territories will increase wasteful duplication and government involvement, not lessen them.

Provinces taking over these co-op programs will have to add to their bureaucracies and invest time in learning to administer programs that CMHC will continue to oversee. In Ontario the province intends to download those programs to yet a third level of government, the municipalities. In that province three levels of government would be involved.

As if that were not enough, co-ops face another threat from these new agreements, the loss of financial security. CMHC only guarantees funding to co-operatives to the end of their current agreements. The $1.9 billion the federal government currently spends on social housing are not guaranteed because the dollars are not tied to existing programs and projects.

The provincial agreements promise a steadily shrinking federal contribution. As existing programs and projects reach the end of their funding cycle, federal funding will cease and there are no assurances that anyone else will step in. The agreements reveal a slow but definitive withdrawal of federal financial support for Canadians with housing needs.

The new social housing agreements also do not require the provinces to replace the funding. There is nothing in the agreements that directs the provinces to assume that responsibility or, for that matter, that obliges them to continue spending the money they contribute now under the shared cost housing programs. In fact the agreements give the provinces and territories an incentive to reduce the number of social housing units in their jurisdiction.

Clause 7(e) of the Saskatchewan agreement states:

—for greater certainty the removal of Housing from the Portfolio of programs covered by the agreement (whether by disposition, destruction, no longer being within a program in the Portfolio or otherwise) will not entail any reduction of the total amounts of CMHC funding—

There is however another solution. Next week, the Co-operative Housing Federation of Canada, CHF Canada, will meet with the minister responsible for CMHC and propose that a new non-profit, non-governmental organization be set up to administer co-op housing agreements.

If implemented, this new agency would save governments a minimum of $2 million a year plus $50 million over the next 20 years by reducing program administration costs and would lead to a more efficient use of federal subsidies. It would also meet the federal government's goal of devolution of administration while preserving the keys to the co-op housing success story: member control and decentralized management.

The proposed agency will adhere to the goals and principles of current programs and will operate within a strict accountability framework. As important, the CHF Canada proposal will ensure the continuing success of a housing system that many thousands of people have worked very hard to build, an effective unifying system working in every province and territory.

Recently an independent study commission jointly funded by CMHC and CHF Canada examined a new draft of the co-operative sectors proposal and compared it to CMHC's current operation with improvements suggested by CMHC.

The consultant found that compared to CMHC's approach the CHF Canada proposal would generate savings for government in program administration costs and would assist co-operatives in increasing the effectiveness of their operations. When a co-op saves money in this operation it means more money to house people in need either in that co-op or through other housing programs.

In closing, let me restate that I agree with most of what the government has done in the area of social housing. Lumping housing co-operatives with all other social housing and downloading them to the provinces threaten to destroy what has become a unique Canadian success story.

This debate is about optimizing the structure of government so that it can best serve the needs of Canadians. There is a ready alternative to the current round of provincial and territorial grievances. I suggest the government take a good, long, hard look at it before going any further.

Grand Falls Curling Club March 31st, 1998

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to join with curling fans from across Canada in celebrating the new world champion junior women's curling team from my riding of Tobique—Mactaquac.

This year, Team Canada was the Grand Falls Curling Club of Melissa McClure, Nancy Toner, Brigitte McClure, Bethany Toner and Julie Webb. Years of training, dedication and sacrifice paid off on Sunday when they beat Japan's Akiko Katoh 11 to 3.

They also have a secret weapon. Father Joseph LeBlanc and the congregation at St. John the Evangelist Church in Johnville, New Brunswick, held a prayer service Sunday morning to ensure their victory.

I congratulate Melissa, Nancy, Brigitte, Bethany and Julie. They truly are the best in the world. Way to go, Team Canada.

Hepatitis C March 26th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, there are provinces that disagree with the federal government on the matter of compensation.

Justice Krever, who was appointed by the federal government to conduct the inquiry, also seems to disagree. In his final report, he indicated that, in his opinion, providing compensation to some victims but not to others would be unjustifiable.

Is the Minister of Health prepared to defend the federal government's position, which neither the provinces nor Justice Krever support?

Hepatitis C March 26th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, reports published today indicate that the Minister of Health has put together a compensation package which offers a one time payment of $22,000 to $30,000 to victims of tainted blood who contracted hepatitis C between 1986 and 1990.

Could the minister confirm this? Does he feel that this is just compensation for hepatitis C victims?

Pensions March 24th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, when people lose their health it has a tremendous effect on their lifestyles. I am appalled at the government's lack of compassion for those who apply for the Canada disability pension. Today applicants for the CPP disability pension must wait on average close to seven months for a decision on their financial future. It is absurd to be put on hold like this, not to mention the strain it has on their state of mind as they try to recuperate from their illnesses.

It is even more frustrating that they put their faith in their doctors and in the system. Their doctors fill out reports and recommendations for their patients, only to have them rejected by a panel of nurses.

We are seeing the mismanagement of people's lives when there should be compassion for those who suffer from disabilities. We must revisit this system and make the necessary improvements to assure all Canadians in need of the program that it is fair and prompt in its service.

Health March 9th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, four years ago at the age of 43 Wanda Bradstreet died from hepatitis C. She was a victim of tainted blood transfusions she received 10 years earlier. Her husband had to leave work in order to care for her because she was too ill to work. Eventually they had to sell their business to pay the expenses associated with her liver transplant. Mr. Bradstreet still has outstanding bills. The Minister of Health has been stalling. Why does this government not use some compassion and leadership and act unilaterally—

Tobique River March 9th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, the Tobique River runs from New Brunswick's tallest mountain, Mount Carleton, to the wonderful village of Perth-Andover. It is a favourite vacation spot and supports many communities as the source of their drinking water.

Unfortunately, this delicate river is being contaminated by raw sewage that discharges into the river from the thirty year old Plaster Rock sewage lift station.

Who is responsible for defiling this beautiful river? Look no further than the solicitor-general and MP for Fredericton.

Last year I joined with the residents and village council of Plaster Rock in supporting a proposal that would have replaced the ancient lift station. This project was vetoed by the solicitor general because he thought the money could be better spent building shiny new offices for his Liberal colleagues in Grand Falls.

Shame on him. I hope that every time he takes a drink of water or takes a bath or cooks his food he will stop and think about what it would be like if his water was contaminated by raw sewage.

Questions On The Order Paper February 16th, 1998

What is the gouvernment's estimate of the dollar value of second tier benefits from the contract to purchase EH-101 helicopters as detailed by the Department of National Defence including: the creation of 40,000 person-years of employment, benefits to Canadian businesses involved in the contract, additional tax revenues generated by those businesses and employees, a 10% royalty on all future international sales of EH-101 helicopters' and, in particular, how many EH-101 helicopters have been purchased around the world since 1993 and at what cost?