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  • His favourite word was justice.

Last in Parliament May 2004, as Liberal MP for Etobicoke Centre (Ontario)

Won his last election, in 2000, with 56% of the vote.

Statements in the House

The Budget March 2nd, 2000

Mr. Speaker, as to clout and cash, as I mentioned yesterday the Government of Canada now contributes over one-third of all public health spending in the country every year.

I also emphasize that apart from the additional money we are working constructively for the kinds of changes that are needed. The provinces recognize it is not just a matter of money.

Minister Bernard Landry's statement yesterday made it clear. He said “The problem in health is not a problem of money, it is a planning problem, a management problem”. I fully agree.

The Budget March 2nd, 2000

Mr. Speaker, if the leader of the NDP wants to talk about money, let us talk about money. The NDP's own platform in the 1997 election said it wanted a floor of $15 billion in cash for the CHST. We have exceeded that.

NDP members said they wanted to restore $7 billion for health. We have doubled that already. On November 4, 1998, the leader of that party in the House called for an additional $2.5 billion for health. Since then we have invested over $14 billion.

Supply March 2nd, 2000

Madam Speaker, it has increased and we are contributing one-third of all public spending; but let me go beyond money to the second part of the equation which is the changes that are required.

The leader of the New Democratic Party talks about problems in emergency rooms. If she will go there as I have done and speak to the people who run hospitals, who run emergency rooms, and ask them why, they will give two reasons. The first reason is that family physicians, as hard as they work, cannot be on duty 24 hours a day. If we call them when their offices are closed there will be a tape machine saying go to emergency. That way we get too many people at the emergency department who ought to be served in a different way in another place.

The second reason is that there are people on stretchers in emergency departments waiting for admission to hospital who should be upstairs in beds and cannot go there. The beds upstairs are taken by people who should be moved out of hospital into home and community care, which does not exist. If we want to resolve the problems with emergency rooms and stop ambulances being turned away, we will buy into the agenda of the provincial ministers of health, which I support, to change primary care and to add home and community care where it is needed across the country.

Supply March 2nd, 2000

Madam Speaker, the cash does matter. That is why in each of the last four budgets we have increased the cash very significantly, as I mentioned, by 25% over the last two years. The cash does matter and it has increased.

Just the other day the Minister of Finance announced $2.5 billion which will result in a permanent increase of $500 million a year in the cash floor. That will be $15.5 billion a year in the cash transfer to provinces.

Let me address another point the member raised. She talked about the passive role of the Government of Canada. We do not take a passive role. I reacted immediately to the proposals of Mr. Klein by saying that we would look at them very critically. I expressed concerns when I wrote to the minister of health of Alberta. We are awaiting the tabling of the legislation later today. We will examine it carefully to determine whether it is consistent with the Canada Health Act both in letter and in spirit.

We have aggressively proposed that ministers meet quickly to act, not just speak, on points of common priority in order to improve medicare. I do not think that is passive. That is the Government of Canada fulfilling the role it is intended to serve of leadership, co-ordination and working constructively with partners.

The last thing I will say is that I know we cannot succeed if we rely on personal attacks. I am not speaking now about members opposite. I am speaking of other participants in the debate. We will not advance this issue on the basis of personal attacks.

It is not too long ago that I was in the real world working and watching politics as a citizen. I can recall how disappointed my neighbours and I were when we saw politicians engage in personal attacks. It is very dismaying because it signals that they are not focusing on the public interest. They are not at work on what will make a difference.

I suggest to all my colleagues in this debate that we set aside personal attacks, that we focus on what Canadians are interested in, which is long term solutions to their medicare system, and that we work together in a constructive fashion to get those changes in place.

Supply March 2nd, 2000

Mr. Speaker, I intend to share my speaking time.

I would like to begin by saying that I am delighted to have the opportunity to participate in the debate today on a matter of prime importance to Canadians.

What we are talking about today, Canada's health care system, represents a tangible expression of this nation's shared values. It is something that lies very close to the heart of our country's sense of self.

It seems to me that Canadians cherish medicare because to us it is about more than just doctors, hospitals and medical treatment. It is about the way we want to live. It is about being part of this country. Canadian medicare is about the promise that we make to each other as Canadians, that in times of need we will look after each other regardless of wealth or of privilege, and so it is a subject of fundamental importance to each of us.

The principles of the Canada Health Act, the principles on which Canadian medicare is built, are as sound today as they were decades ago when they were enshrined in federal law. Their soundness derives not just from the social equity, which is obvious, but also from the economic advantage that the single tier, universal coverage provides to Canadians and Canadian businesses.

Time and again the economic comparative advantage of Canadian medicare is demonstrated, and we must never lose sight of that fact. As sound as these principles are and as strong as the arguments are for preserving those principles, we have problems in practice of which every Canadian is aware. It is clear that the status quo is unacceptable. It cannot continue. There are people who are waiting too long, waiting hours in the emergency ward, waiting months for referral to a specialist, waiting a year for a long term bed, waiting what seems an eternity for someone to answer the call button in the understaffed hospital ward. The status quo is not on.

However, as we look for answers we must be careful to distinguish the real solutions from the false ones. We must resist the siren call of the private parallel system which is not the answer. Private for-profit medicine is not the intelligent or effective response. The private parallel provision of medical services is less effective, more expensive and, frankly, is inconsistent with the basic principles to which this nation is committed.

Surely the answer lies in renewing medicare, in finding new ways to provide services of quality to give Canadians and their families access to quality care in a timely fashion within the principles of medicare, within the principles of the Canada Health Act.

What is needed? I suggest two things are needed: first, the proper level of financing; and second, innovation and change, ideas and hard work to bring about the kind of structural changes that are necessary to adapt the principles to modern realities.

First, in terms of financing let us set the record straight on the contribution of the Government of Canada to our medicare system. Public spending on medicare every year approximates $60 billion. We transfer to provinces a total of about $40 billion, including equalization. If we subtract the equalization it is $30 billion in transfers this coming fiscal year through cash and tax points.

Looking historically at the utilization by provinces, just over half of that transfer is devoted to health care, about 54%, almost $17 billion. If we add the $3 billion that Canada spends directly for health care services for Canadian forces and aboriginal persons, it is over $20 billion. One-third of total public spending on health care in the country every year comes from the Government of Canada.

Let us be honest about the facts on financing. Let us tell the truth about role of the Government of Canada. One-third of all public funding on health care is contributed by the Government of Canada. The cash portion of that contribution, the cash portion of the transfers to the provinces has increased by fully 25% over the last two years as a result of the very budget measures that party is today attacking.

I said it would take two things to save and strengthen medicare. The first is the proper level of financing. The second is hard work with ideas and innovation to make the changes we must make so that services are provided and are accessible to Canadians in keeping with standards of quality.

Our objective must not be, as the NDP would seem to suggest, simply to make the health care system more expensive by spending more. Our objective must surely be to improve its quality and access to services by making the changes needed. That means long-term sustainability. It means learning from the provinces by looking at what they have done to innovate in recent years. It means sitting with the provinces, learning from their experiences and developing a shared agenda of common priorities, because one thing is certain, we will not succeed in this effort unless we work together.

I have sat with provincial ministers and I can say that year after year at the end of our meetings we produce a virtually identical list of common priorities of what has to happen to resolve the issues facing medicare. I have spoken and written about these issues at length in the past. Today is not the day to go into detail about them, but I will say, by way of summary, that the provincial priorities for innovation and change, priorities that I share, include new ways of delivering primary health care, that is to say the first line of family health services in communities.

Changing the way the primary health care is delivered is fundamental to restoring accessibility to medical services in the country. The second is broadening the availability of home and community care to reflect the reality of what happened with the downsizing of the hospital sector and the increased reliance on care outside hospitals. Provinces are moving in that direction as well. Many of them have made very significant investments in home and community care.

The time has now come to broaden that effort and to weave home and community care into medicare as an integral part of health services. In reality it is needed.

The third is a focus on quality care. The Canada Health Act does not speak of quality or standards of care. It talks about principles.

For the first time this spring we will produce a comprehensive report on outcuts in the health care system, measuring how it performs and with that measurement, which will allow us to manage better, we can work toward public discussions of quality in health care in Canada using information technology to monitor it, to track it and to integrate the various parts of our health care system so we can give better service to Canadians.

The Government of Canada has a crucial role to play in all this. It is a role of leadership. It is a role of co-ordination. It is a role of bringing constructive ideas to the table and of supporting the provinces in their own efforts to innovate and resolve these difficult issues.

I make no apology for the fact that some weeks ago I put some ideas on the table. I think it is my responsibility to lead a national discussion about where we go from here. The Government of Canada will be there throughout to do its part. I proposed meetings in the near future with my provincial counterparts so that we can work toward a plan of action, implementing the changes that we have all recognized for some time are necessary.

Let us now move from resolution to action. That is what I think we must do on behalf of the people of Canada. If that action requires a greater contribution from the government, if it requires a long term financial commitment from the government, as the Minister of Finance has said and the Prime Minister has always said, the Government of Canada will be there to do its part.

Let me conclude by saying that the status quo is not acceptable. We have to change in order to preserve medicare, to save and strengthen its principles. The choice is not between the status quo and a private for profit system of medicare. That is not the choice we face. The choice is between the status quo, which is unacceptable, and a renewed medicare operating within the principles of the Canada Health Act to do a better job. A country that had the wit to invent it can surely find the will and the ways to preserve it.

Motor Vehicle Transport Act, 1987 March 2nd, 2000

moved for leave to introduce Bill C-28, an act to amend the Motor Vehicle Transport Act, 1987 and to make consequential amendments to other acts.

(Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed)

Health March 1st, 2000

Mr. Speaker, it will take two things to consolidate our health care system: first, more money, and we have increased transfers by 5% over the next two years, and second, work and ideas on improving health care services.

I am open to working with my provincial counterparts to develop a health care system providing quality care for all Canadians.

Health Care March 1st, 2000

Mr. Speaker, I am grateful for the member's two cents worth but the reality is far different from what she suggests.

Public spending on health will be $60 billion next year; $20 billion of that will be financed by the Government of Canada. One-third of public spending on health next year will be financed by Ottawa. That has increased a lot over the last couple of years.

In the future, as circumstances permit, we will do more but it will take money and hard work. We are offering both. We want to work with the provinces to make sure we keep medicare and make it serve Canadians well.

Health Care March 1st, 2000

Mr. Speaker, it will take two things to resolve the problems in health care: One is money and the other is ideas and hard work.

In terms of money, over the last two years we have increased the cash transfers to the provinces for health by 25%. In terms of ideas and hard work, I have an open invitation to ministers of health to meet with me next week, if they can, to talk about where we go from here, working together to resolve the issues in medicare. That is federal leadership.

The Budget February 29th, 2000

Mr. Speaker, to lend an air of reality to this discussion the member should know that every year public spending on health in Canada is about $60 billion. This government transfers to provinces a total of $40 billion, so naturally we are playing a major role.

The measures announced yesterday are intended to assist provinces with urgent short term needs. As the Minister of Finance has just observed, I want to work with my colleagues in the provinces on a long term plan. A long term plan will involve long term financing and this government will be there to do its part.