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Crucial Fact

  • His favourite word was reform.

Last in Parliament May 2004, as Liberal MP for Windsor West (Ontario)

Won his last election, in 2000, with 54% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Ipperwash October 5th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, there are established procedures for the federal government to provide assistance to local law enforcement authorities.

It is very simple. If the province of Ontario feels it cannot handle the situation and asks the federal government for assistance, it will give a prompt and effective response to the request. The road of action is very clear. We are not catering to thugs. As I said and I repeat, if the province of Ontario wants federal government assistance then the means of making that request are very much in place.

Witness Protection Program Act October 5th, 1995

moved that Bill C-78, an act to provide for the establishment and operation of a program to enable certain persons to receive protection in relation to certain inquiries, investigations or prosecutions, be read the second time and referred to a committee.

Madam Speaker, I am pleased to open debate on Bill C-78, the witness protection program act, and to ask for its approval on second reading.

The bill creates for the first time a statutory foundation for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police source witness protection program. I am sure all members realize the importance of witness and

source protection. Governments must be able to help ensure the safety and security of persons who assist police and prosecutors in their efforts to crack down on crime.

Experience shows that witnesses or sources who provide evidence or who assist in police investigations at risk of harm to themselves or their families are often among the most effective tools our justice system has against crime, especially organized crime.

The intent of the witness protection program act is to ensure our federal witness protection program offers the best possible protection to potential witnesses and sources.

The proposed changes to the act will make the current RCMP source witness protection program-which has been in effect since 1984 as a strictly administrative program-more transparent and more efficient, by providing sound statutory and regulatory authority.

In short, we are creating a witness protection program which for the first time will have a legislative base. This will have the important effect of placing the RCMP source witness protection program more in the public domain.

I know this was a major concern of my colleague, the member for Scarborough West, when he put forward his private member's bill on witness protection. His bill provided a useful basis for discussion of the issues leading to Bill C-78. I again thank him for his efforts.

Under the bill there will now be clear accountability for the operation of the RCMP source witness protection program. While the identities of sources and witnesses will remain secret, the selection criteria, the decision making process and the scope and the extent of the protection to be provided will be transparent and clear. This will help ensure that both applicants who enter the program and the RCMP which operates it have a clear understanding of their respective rights and obligations as well as the extent and scope of the protection to be provided.

This should also prevent any misunderstanding between the RCMP and those it seeks to protect. Overall, the changes to the RCMP source witness protection program will meet the needs of police departments, as well as those of witnesses and sources requiring protection.

The proposed changes will ensure clearly defined admission criteria for witnesses, the consistent handling of cases across the country, and the clear setting out of the responsibilities and obligations both of the administrators of the program and of the individuals entering it. The bill will also ensure a more defined management structure within the RCMP for the daily operation of the program, thereby increasing accountability.

Furthermore the bill will ensure a complaints procedure is in place and that the commissioner of the RCMP will submit to the solicitor general an annual report on the operation of the program which then must be tabled in the House.

Provincial and municipal law enforcement agencies will still, as they have done in the past, be able to participate in the RCMP source witness protection program on a cost recovery basis. However the bill is not intended to replace other witness protection programs run by provincial police forces and by some municipal police forces.

In keeping with the government's program of fiscal restraint, the changes to the RCMP source witness protection program arising out of the bill will be funded out of existing resources.

When the government was elected it made a commitment to a safe homes, safe streets agenda. Since taking office we have been honouring that commitment. We have introduced Bill C-45 to bring about an updating of our corrections and parole system. This bill has now been passed by the House and is being studied in the other place.

We have created a system using the Canadian Police Information Centre data banks to help screen out sexual abusers as potential employees and volunteers working with children. We have established also using the CPIC data banks a national flagging system to help provincial crown attorneys to make more frequent and more effective use of the dangerous offender provisions of the Criminal Code as an instrument to protect the public better from dangerous high risk offenders.

We have introduced comprehensive gun control proposals, proposals adopted by the House and under study in the other place. We have created a national crime prevention council. We have passed amendments to the Young Offenders Act. We have passed Bill C-41 to reform the sentencing process. We have passed legislation that would prevent extreme intoxication from being used as a defence to excuse violence and other serious crimes. We have passed legislation that permits a provincial court judge to issue a warrant allowing police to obtain body samples from suspects for forensic DNA analysis.

The witness protection program act is another important component in our overall effort to improve the safety and security of all Canadians. I urge all hon. members to support Bill C-78. In this respect I thank the hon. Reform Party member for Surrey-White Rock-South Langley when she was solicitor general critic for having expressed her support of the bill. Therefore I look forward

to and I ask for similar support from all other members of the House to ensure speedy passage of Bill C-78.

Ipperwash October 2nd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, under our Constitution the administration of justice is a provincial responsibility. The federal government cannot simply walk in and tell the Ontario Provincial Police or the Quebec Provincial Police to leave and let somebody else do their job. If they feel they need assistance there are provisions in place for that assistance to be requested and, if so, it will be responded to in a quick and effective way.

We are there to help law enforcement across the country. We want to see the laws enforced in an equitable and firm way across the country, but we are not in a position to tell, like the hon. member, that we do not think the Ontario Provincial Police or the Quebec Provincial Police can do its job. I am sure he should have, as a former member of a local police force, more respect for and confidence in similar police forces across the country.

Ipperwash October 2nd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, the matter is clearly under the jurisdiction of the Ontario provincial government through its police of local jurisdiction, the Ontario Provincial Police.

If the Ontario government through the Ontario Provincial Police feels that it needs assistance, there are recognized procedures in place to request such assistance. If a request is made it will be given very active and immediate consideration.

Business Of The House September 28th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I will draw the hon. member's suggestion to the attention of the chair of the committee. If I am not mistaken, under our current rules the standing committees have wide powers to undertake studies at their own initiative rather than only at the request of the government. The committee may see fit to begin looking at this matter in a general sense.

I also assure the hon. member that this issue is being actively examined within the government. The judgment which I received just yesterday is very lengthy and very bulky. It is understandable that the government's response would not be forthcoming within days of the judgment.

The member's point about a vehicle for some public examination of the issue is one that, as I have said, the health committee might well want to take a look at under its ongoing and existing authorities.

Business Of The House September 28th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I think our whip is ready to respond to the second point raised by the hon. House leader for the Reform Party.

With respect to his first point, I was not able to be present at the House leader's meeting this week. I will endeavour to see what further information I can provide him in response to his question.

We have a number of bills listed on the Order Paper. These will be the measures on which we will be drawing for the legislative program of next week and ensuing weeks.

As I said to him last week, there may well be other measures in preparation that the government will be putting on the Order Paper within the next 10 days. I am sorry I cannot give him a precise list of additional measures at this point, but we will endeavour to assist the House in presenting the government's program in an orderly and meaningful way.

Business Of The House September 28th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, we will continue today, and if necessary tomorrow, with the debate on second reading of Bill C-93, the cultural property legislation, and seconding reading of Bill C-98 regarding oceans.

If these items are disposed of before the end of the day tomorrow, I propose to call second reading of Bill C-78, the witness protection bill, and Bill C-64, the employment equity bill. This will be for debate at report stage and second reading since the bill was referred to committee before second reading.

Next week we will commence with a motion for reference before second reading of Bill C-101, the transportation bill, followed by another motion for reference before second reading of Bill C-84, amendments to the Regulations Act.

We will then return, if necessary, to the legislation listed for today and tomorrow at the place where we left off. That concludes the weekly business statement.

Corrections And Conditional Release Act September 27th, 1995

moved that Bill C-45, an act to amend the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, the Criminal Code, the Criminal Records Act, the Prisons and Reformatories Act, and the Transfer of Offenders Act, be read the third time and passed.

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to move third reading of Bill C-45. This is a bill to update our corrections and parole system.

When I last spoke on this bill to open second reading debate, I noted that it was part of a strategic framework of initiatives that work together in order to carry out our red book agenda and demonstrated our commitment to safe homes and safe streets for all Canadians.

This is a goal this government takes very seriously. Over the past year this government has been working hard and has consistently delivered on this commitment.

We have brought forward amendments to the Young Offenders Act to respond to a number of concerns about it. Through Bill C-41 we have reformed the sentencing process by placing a new focus on better addressing public safety, ensuring more consistency in sentencing, and being more responsive to the needs of victims.

We have also made a lot of headway on preparing and presenting legislation on gun control, on a new witness protection program, and on DNA analysis. Also, legislation is being prepared within the government to take steps to deal with high risk violent offenders, which I will discuss further in my remarks.

There is a widespread desire to ensure that we have an effective federal corrections and parole system. This makes it all the more important for us to look closely at problems that are identified and seek concrete and meaningful solutions to these problems.

There may be some violent offenders who are unlikely to ever be able to lead law-abiding lives in the community. However, simply locking up more and more of the other kinds of offenders for longer periods of time will not achieve the long term safety of our communities that we all care about. Surely the United States experience proves this every day.

Where a sentence of imprisonment is considered necessary by the court, we must be mindful that the vast majority of offenders are given definite sentences with fixed terms. Therefore, they will eventually be released into the community. A conditional release of most offenders at a point in their sentence that is consistent with public safety, along with support and surveillance in the community during the balance of the sentence and programming while incarcerated, would appear to provide the best chance for the offender to be a stable, law-abiding member of the community. I submit that this offers the best prospects for the safety of our communities in the long term.

Bill C-45 is one building block in this government's response to the complex issues involved in having a criminal justice system that contributes to the overall protection of the public and the safety of our communities. Bill C-45 by itself is not the sole answer, but I believe it makes important reforms that demonstrate forward movement.

As I outlined to the House during second reading debate, the bill makes improvements in a number of substantive areas. There are situations where the protection of the public means the usual conditional release process should not apply. Therefore, the bill strengthens the detention process by responding to concerns about the early release of sex offenders who victimize children, which in the bill includes persons under the age of 18. The law will make it much easier for the parole board, at the request of the correctional service, to keep such persons in prison for their entire sentence. Where a further offence against the child is likely, such an offender can expect to serve the full sentence in custody without any period of conditional release in the community.

I would like to reiterate that this measure is not needed because we believe sex offences against children are considered more serious than those against adult victims, but because the current legislation has proven less effective in cases involving children.

The second main area of change in the bill relates to the accountability and credibility of the National Parole Board. There have been many changes in the board's operation in the past year. This government has placed an emphasis on recruiting experienced, knowledgeable individuals. I believe the government's record of appointments in the past year bears this out.

The members of the board have an extremely difficult job to do, one that few of us in this Chamber would willingly take on. I think we should recognize the challenges involved and the dedication of the members. The board makes thousands of decisions a year and sometimes, despite everyone's best efforts, unforeseen tragedies in the community do occur. These are sad moments and are clearly very painful for those who are directly affected by them.

Every effort possible is being made and will continue to be made to improve the quality of the board's decision making. To support this, the board has recently adopted a code of conduct as well as performance standards. Renewed emphasis has been placed on training and evaluation.

Where problems arise and no other resolution has been successful, Bill C-45 provides for a review of the board member's performance and a process for remedial action to be taken. This amendment in Bill C-45 is there to be used where a board member's performance has clearly fallen below acceptable standards.

Frankly, I think the provision will prove to be a success if it does not have to be used. This may seem paradoxical, but I say this because if it does not have to be used it will mean that we are appointing top-notch individuals, we are providing the necessary training and support, and that corrective action is being taken before serious problems arise in the performance of board members that would necessitate use of the new procedure. At the same time, if the House adopts this measure and it is adopted by the other place and given royal assent, which I hope and expect it will, then the procedure is in the act and of course it is there to be used if circumstances require it.

The third area of reform in the bill is the provision relating to calculating the sentences of offenders who commit multiple crimes or who reoffend while on conditional release during the sentence period. Clearly, tougher provisions are needed to deal with these repeat offenders. Bill C-45 will help eliminate the situation whereby many such offenders may be immediately eligible for parole, notwithstanding the imposition of a severe consecutive new sentence, something that is possible under the current law.

Bill C-45 will cure in large measure the problem of the merger of sentences which has been raised with a great deal of concern by many organizations of the community, including police organizations. I hope this will help bring about the support of the House for this measure.

A fourth area of reform will give the National Parole Board the authority to impose residency conditions on offenders being released on statutory release who pose some risk of committing a violent offence but who do not meet the detention criteria that would, if met, allow the National Parole Board at the request of the Correctional Service of Canada to detain a person until the end of that person's sentence. This amendment was brought by the government during clause by clause study of the bill in committee in response to recommendations by the Canadian Police Association, the Stephenson inquest, and the standing committee itself.

Bill C-45 was one of the first bills to follow one of the new routes for legislation I proposed to the House as House leader and which was agreed to early in 1994. I am talking about referral of a bill to committee prior to second reading.

The Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs devoted a great deal of time and energy to reviewing this bill. In a little over three months the committee heard from over 60 witnesses on both this bill and Bill C-41, the bill on sentencing. Those individuals who testified represented 32 different organizations, including victims' groups, police organizations, professional groups, women's groups, aboriginal organizations, as well as a range of organizations from the voluntary sector.

During both the committee's clause by clause review and the debate during report stage in the House last week, a much broader range of motions was debated than would have been likely under the system of review of a bill in committee only after second reading.

While I know that some members may have been disappointed that not all the motions they put forward were adopted, this new process allowed members to consider and discuss issues that otherwise would have simply been ruled out of order. I want to thank the members of the justice committee for their work and I want to point out that at least some of the suggestions from members, including opposition members, have been accepted by the government.

I mentioned at the beginning of my remarks several other important legislative initiatives taken by this government to help provide safer homes and safer streets for Canadians. As my parliamentary secretary reminded the House last week, significant advances have been made by this government over the past two years to protect the basic rights of Canadians to live in peaceful and safe communities.

I want to conclude my remarks by mentioning some of the initiatives that were taken that did not need legislation to be adopted by this House.

In November of last year I announced a national information system based on enhancements to the Canadian Police Information Centre, or CPIC. This will make more and better information available to organizations across the country to help them screen out convicted sex abusers applying for work with children. These improvements to CPIC have allowed organizations to more thoroughly screen the backgrounds of individuals applying for paid or voluntary work with children or other vulnerable persons.

This government made a commitment in the red book to help prevent the sexual abuse of children by people in positions of trust and the government has acted on this commitment. While the CPIC system is now in place, as I have said, these measures will only be truly effective if organizations working with children are aware of the changes and the need for screening in general and make use of the new system. We have a role to play in providing leadership, education, and awareness to make sure this happens.

Along with partners involving the Department of Justice, the Department of Health, and the Canadian Association of Volunteer Bureaus and Centres, work is under way to create educational materials and to deliver training to voluntary organizations across the country on screening volunteers and paid staff in positions of trust with children and other vulnerable individuals. These measures will help us to communicate the importance of screening to help prevent child abuse. I am sure this is a goal we all share.

Another positive example of this kind of co-operative effort is recent work in the area of high risk offenders. In January of this year the Minister of Justice and I met with federal, provincial and territorial colleagues in Victoria to discuss the report of our task force on high risk offenders.

Not only did we achieve consensus around the criminal justice recommendations put forward in that report, we also had the

opportunity to meet jointly with representatives from federal, provincial and territorial health ministers.

This allowed us to have a frank and useful discussion of those issues which crossed traditional criminal justice and mental health boundaries.

I believe we must take a comprehensive view in developing meaningful solutions to the issue of high risk violent offenders. This involves seeking effective answers which draw on the facilities of federal, provincial and territorial systems.

I think it was helpful that the task force looked at the system as a whole. It examined strategies at its front end as well as situations in which offenders are approaching release into the community. The report stressed and ministers endorsed a focus on improved measures at the front end of the system so we would hopefully have fewer problems arising at the eleventh hour when an offender is nearing the point of release.

Implementation of the report is under way and we will continue to fully involve our provincial partners.

Some of the matters in the report require further development before they can be put into operation, while we have been able to move more immediately on others. For example, I announced the implementation of a flagging system which will assist prosecutors in identifying cases which would be appropriate for a dangerous offender application.

The House will recall that if the court at the time of conviction and sentencing rules the accused to be a dangerous offender, that person can be imprisoned indefinitely. In a large country such as Canada where there is a high degree of mobility it is not always easy for a provincial crown prosecutor in one corner of the country to have all the information available which would have a bearing on how a case may be prosecuted. The flagging system which also makes use of the Canadian police information centre will help make that information link.

Similarly, a research project, the crown files project, is nearing completion. This project will provide concrete information about the factors which are significant predictors of dangerousness and which are central to successful dangerous offender applications.

The Minister of Justice and I are also working on legislative changes to make it easier for provincial crown attorneys to make more frequent and more effective use than is the case at present of the existing dangerous offender provisions in the Criminal Code. One key element involves making an indefinite sentence of imprisonment the only sentencing option for those found by the courts to be dangerous offenders. Another would provide for new expanded presentence risk assessments in place of the current requirement for the evidence of two psychiatrists, one for the prosecution and one for the defence.

Another important amendment we are working on in line with the task force report is to change the Criminal Code to create a new category of long term offender which would give the courts a new sentencing option. This would require long term supervision of the offender for up to 10 years following the end of the offender's penitentiary term.

In May the Minister of Justice and I convened a forum involving constitutional and legal experts, including those working with police and with victims groups, to tackle the matter of those offenders who remain dangerous at the end of their court imposed sentence. The forum was a productive session that is assisting us in addressing some very fundamental issues such as constitutional questions and how we identify those offenders with the greatest risk of reoffending in a violent manner.

We are working to develop further legislative action to deal with this important and troubling aspect of the matter of high risk dangerous offenders.

We must recognize the criminal justice system is a system. Activities and events in one part of it have a ripple effect through all the other parts.

More vigourous law enforcement places increased demand on courts and corrections, prosecutorial policies can direct more or fewer offenders to community or prison, the availability of community programs may determine what sentences courts view as realistic.

Actions seen as positive from one perspective may have unintended negative side effects. Clearly the criminal justice system is very complex. Moreover, the various segments which make it up come under the authority of different levels of government.

Nevertheless, it is truly one which can work best only if it is well integrated and co-ordinated. It is clear all levels of government, all sectors of the system, social policy groups, police and victims groups must work together. That is one reason last year the government created a national crime prevention council.

I believe we have made an extremely good beginning on improving the criminal justice system in the interests of all Canadians over the past few years. I thank members of the House for all their efforts on the criminal justice front and I look forward to our continuing good co-operation.

I ask that the House give full and speedy approval to the bill in this third reading debate so its useful aspects, every part of the bill, can go into effect very soon to help ensure all Canadians have safer

homes, safer streets and the best possible communities for themselves and for their children.

Points Of Order September 27th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, in light of the ruling you just made with regard to the words of the hon. member for Willowdale, I would like to draw your attention to citation 484 of Beauchesne's which reads in part as follows:

(3) In the House of Commons a Member will not be permitted by the Speaker to indulge in any reflections of the House itself as a political institution; or to impute to any Member or Members unworthy motives for their actions in a particular case-

Mr. Speaker, in light of this citation and in light of the ruling you just made with regard to the language used by the hon. member for Willowdale, I respectfully raise as a point of order a request that you apply the same principle to the question asked by the hon. member for Calgary Southeast which in effect involves an unworthy aspersion on a member of this House.

If it is fair for the hon. member to be requested to withdraw and for the hon. member to comply, as he did with the request to withdraw the word he used, and I am referring to the hon. member for Willowdale, I respectfully submit it is equally fair for a request to be made and for the hon. member for Calgary Southeast in the same spirit of conciliation and goodwill to withdraw her remarks.

Privilege September 27th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I put on the record of the House what the whip for the government was referring to in section 409 of Beauchesne's, which reads in part:

In 1975, the Speaker expressed some general principles in order to clarify the regulations and restrict the negative qualifications which traditionally have guided the question period.

Subsection 7:

A question must adhere to the proprieties of the House in terms of inferences, imputing motives or casting aspersions upon persons within the House or out of it.

The hon. member for Calgary Southeast did exactly what is not supposed to be done according to these guidelines put on the record by one of your distinguished predecessors, Mr. Speaker. The hon. member cannot get away with an improper statement by putting it in an interrogatory fashion, and therefore she should withdraw.