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  • His favourite word was forces.

Last in Parliament May 2004, as Liberal MP for York Centre (Ontario)

Won his last election, in 2000, with 71% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Federal Public Service February 10th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, the assumptions made in the study released by the union are very questionable. The numbers it projects are very much an extreme case. I would caution anyone with respect to looking at that study.

May I say, as I said in the House the other day, that we want to treat people who will be departing because of downsizing in a fair and reasonable fashion. There will be various parts to the departure packages that will help people to re-establish themselves in the private sector.

I met with the mayor of Ottawa this morning to discuss ways in which we could work with the municipal governments to ensure that we minimize the impact on the region. I do note, I might add, that the region within the last year has increased jobs by some 16,000 in number, despite the decline in the federal public service. There is a lot of opportunity now with four out of five jobs in the national capital region being in the private sector to help people move into new opportunities. Certainly we are committed to doing everything we can to help them do that.

Public Service February 7th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, there is no discrepancy between the Prime Minister or myself on this matter.

I indicated that I was not aware of this matter. That is not to say that there were not people involved in the past. What we are saying as we get into this exercise of downsizing is that we simply cannot tolerate that if there is no work there can be no pay. That is what both of us have very clearly said to the people of this country.

Public Service February 7th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, there is no discrepancy with respect to the remarks that have been made in this matter.

We are heading toward the budget and the downsizing that is going to occur in the public service as a result of the program review exercise. We are concerned about being able to deal fairly and reasonably with our employees so that we will not have anybody staying at home collecting money and not working. We simply will not tolerate that circumstance.

However, in the course of dealing with our employees we will deal with them fairly and reasonably.

Workforce Adjustment February 6th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I do not think the hon. member should be worrying about Ottawa-Vanier at all. I do not think it is in the cards for him to worry about it.

Long before there was to be a byelection we were talking with the unions with respect to the matter of workforce adjustment because of the number of people involved in downsizing as a result of the program review process. We will continue with those discussions. I hope to have further discussion to try to bring some resolution to the matter because the workforce adjustment directive is in the union agreement.

As I said earlier in response to the previous question, we intend to treat our employees fairly and reasonably in dealing with this matter.

Public Service February 6th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, yes, I can give those assurances to the hon. member.

We certainly want to make sure that our employees are treated in a fair and reasonable fashion, both those who will be leaving as a result of the downsizing and those who will remain to provide excellent services to the public of Canada.

May I also point out that I will be meeting further with union representatives with respect to this matter. I have been doing that for a number of months in an attempt to reach a mutually acceptable agreement. I am quite willing to continue to have a dialogue with them.

We are however running out of time. Soon we must make decisions about this matter with respect to the forthcoming budget.

In terms of minimizing any job losses, we have reviewed the programs and services of the federal government. We are not out to cut employees per se, but as a result of reduction of programs and services there will be downsizing necessary.

Infrastructure Program December 15th, 1994

Mr. Speaker, as we reach the first anniversary of the launching of the program when the Prime Minister and the premiers came together on December 21 in Ottawa, I am pleased to be able to bring more good news to members of the House.

At the halfway mark of the program over 80 per cent of the $6 billion has been allocated to some 8,400 projects, creating over 81,000 jobs for Canadians. We are well on our way to the creation of some 100,000 direct jobs in the program.

I am pleased to tell the member for Saint-Denis that in the province of Quebec we have created over 20,000 jobs and have contributed significantly to the economy of the city of Montreal.

One more statistic, because I know the Reform Party's interest in the matter: I have received from Reform Party members some 15 letters and 10 of them have been in support of the program.

Government Business December 13th, 1994

Mr. Speaker, the department is going to be going for another three or four years. Nobody is retiring or leaving. I do not think any of the members opposite are planning on doing that. There is plenty of time to deal with the issues.

We are continuing to review the matter and to look at the various options. We have a number of things the government is putting forward to meet all its obligations. We will meet our obligations under the red book commitments with respect to MPs' pensions, to end double dipping, and to deal with the question of a minimum age.

Employment Equity Act December 13th, 1994

Madam Speaker, I am pleased to be associated with my colleagues, the Minister of Human Resources Development and the Secretary of State for Training and Youth, in bringing to the House a proposal for the new employment equity act.

We are certain the parliamentary committee that will review this bill will be very attentive to the views of interested people and to various groups on this matter. We are looking forward to the discussions in committee and to the debate in the House.

The Prime Minister had it right when he addressed the French Senate a short time ago. He said that because of the sacrifices and efforts of the women and men who have come from the four corners of the world, we have succeeded in building in Canada a society that is pluralistic and equitable and that is founded on open-mindedness, tolerance, generosity and sharing.

As citizens of this country, we can be proud of the progress our society has made. I do not believe that Canadians have finished evolving. Although we have made remarkable progress towards equity, I do not think that everyone has an equal opportunity to contribute fully.

We all know there is room for more open-mindedness, more tolerance, more generosity and more sharing. That is what employment equity is all about. It is a policy of inclusion, not exclusion; of openness, not discrimination; of sharing, not restricting. That is what my hon. friend does not seem to get through his head.

It was in the 1970s that greater attention began to be paid to questions of equity and equality. One consequence was the adoption of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Even before that, Parliament enacted the Canadian Human Rights Act and the first steps were taken toward a policy of affirmative action that became in due course employment equity.

What employment equity seeks to do is to break down barriers to equality in the workplace, that is to ensure that no person is denied employment opportunities for reasons unrelated to ability. At the same time it puts in place measures to assist in creating a level playing field for aboriginal peoples, for persons with disabilities, for persons in a visible minority and for women.

On a wall in Ottawa that is otherwise undistinguished someone has scrawled: "Equal treatment does not equal equality". Employment equity recognizes that truth. Differences must be recognized and accepted if there is to be greater equality. The fact of recognizing these differences and doing something to diminish them does not constitute discrimination, as some may claim. On the contrary, it contributes to the equality of opportunity of all citizens and does not diminish any.

Some examples concerning the four designated groups may explain how employment equity is pursued in the public service and indeed often in the private sector as well. Although women are entering the public service in greater numbers than in the past, they are clustered in large measure in what are called pink ghettos. They are heavily represented in fields such as teaching, nursing and clerical work. Women working full time earn less than three-quarters of what men make. In the public service women constitute about 85 per cent of the administrative support category, the clerical workers, but only about 18 per cent of the executive group.

It was recognized some years ago that if women were to become managers in the public service, they would need assistance in overcoming the barriers they faced. Among the measures put in place was a bureau within the Public Service Commission to help women prepare themselves for tasks that had for a long time been almost the exclusive preserve of men.

Alternative work arrangements were introduced as well. These arrangements vary from tele-work to job sharing. Managers are encouraged to permit all employees to take advantage of these if possible, if it makes sense. Nevertheless, women need these alternative arrangements more because they still carry the major burden of family responsibilities.

Recently the pension provisions were amended so that part time employees could contribute. Again both men and women are eligible, but we know that 26 per cent of women work part time as compared to 10 per cent of men.

These are the fruits of a consciousness that includes employment equity. The progress that has been made, however, still leaves women far from equal. Corporate culture has to change too. There has to be a willingness to encourage the contributions of women and of all employees. That is also a matter of employment equity.

The accommodations made for persons with disabilities would be applauded by all members of the House. The Government of Canada has a policy to make its facilities accessible to all Canadians with disabilities, whether they are members of the public or employees.

A policy encourages departments to provide their employees who have disabilities with the technical aids they need to accomplish their jobs. That policy is backed up with a fund that has been placed at the disposal of the Public Service Commission. As an example, if a person who is visually impaired needs a computer with a voice synthesizer, then one will be provided.

In some departments, people with learning disabilities were hired to do work that others might not have found stimulating. The results were outstanding. That is employment equity at work.

In another government department students with disabilities were hired under a special program for two summers in a row. The students acquired workplace knowledge and skills that they might not otherwise have been able to gain. Perhaps even more important, the project has worked to break down the psychological barriers that persons with disabilities face. It also served to

prove that persons with disabilities can be as productive as other employees. They too have abilities.

This was no doubt what the Governor General had in mind when he said earlier this month on the International Day of Disabled Persons that individuals with a disability are often marginalized by discrimination and that their opportunities are diminished by ignorance. Employment equity exists to open the doors to persons with disabilities so that they too can participate fully in the workplace.

A recent Statistics Canada study showed that among well-educated persons with disabilities, aboriginal peoples and persons of visible minority, the earning gap was closing. Although 1990 university graduates with disabilities earn some 7 per cent less than other graduates, the more important gap is in employment rates. Among university graduates with disabilities the employment rate is 6 percentage points lower than for other graduates. The gap is 12 per cent for community college graduates. Even those with relatively minor limitations have more difficulty in finding jobs than other graduates.

The story is about the same for aboriginal people. Aboriginal graduates from community colleges in 1990 have an unemployment rate that is almost 10 per cent higher than other community college graduates. The playing field simply is not level. There are a number of tools available to level the playing field. One used by the Public Service Commission is to enrich the pool of candidates. You will not have any aboriginal employees if you do not have any aboriginal candidates. You will not have the candidates if you do all the hiring through word of mouth. Even then you may not have a good selection of aboriginal candidates to consider. They may not come forward perhaps because they believe that they would not be selected. Therefore, you need a program of outreach not to guarantee a job but to provide assurances that they can compete with the principle of merit. The principle of merit is paramount in our system in the Public Service of Canada.

Once an aboriginal employee has been hired the manager may find that a certain amount of cultural adaptation is required both in his part and on the part of the employee.

Persons in visible minorities are also under-represented in the public service in comparison with the members in the workforce. Like women and persons with disabilities, persons in a visible minority are of all backgrounds. Some are recent immigrants and some have been here for decades or hundreds of years such as the black people from Nova Scotia.

One of the problems faced by the public service is that although persons in a visible minority are fairly well represented in the scientific and professional category they are not moving up in proportional numbers into the ranks of senior management. A part of the solution was found within the framework of employment equity programs in the form of a special course that we developed through the Canadian centre for management development to help certain people to develop their management skills.

Finally, whether these candidates succeed will depend on their qualifications and ability. The merit principle must govern and the person considered to be the most competent-

Bill C-62 December 12th, 1994

Mr. Speaker, the purpose of Bill C-62 is not to compromise on any of the protection to the environment that is provided in the acts of Parliament that have that purpose in mind.

It is to deal with inefficiencies in the regulations so that we can help a process that will create more jobs and more growth opportunities.

Thanks to the Minister of the Environment we have made it even clearer in the act that sustainable development is an objective to be met. With respect to the environmental protection issues and regulations thereto, it is up to each minister, and in this case the Minister of the Environment, as to which one should apply or should not apply.

I can assure the member that in consultations with the minister, the protection of the environment, the protection of health and safety of all Canadians are of paramount importance.

The Disabled December 12th, 1994

Mr. Speaker, the government has a program for helping disabled people to be able to adapt to work stations in the public service.

We are altering those work stations to help people. We want to attract more people not because of their disabilities but because a lot of them have a great amount of ability and a great deal to offer in the public service.