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  • His favourite word was quebec.

Last in Parliament May 2004, as Liberal MP for Gatineau (Québec)

Won his last election, in 2000, with 51% of the vote.

Statements in the House

The Budget March 15th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, in tabling the budget, our Minister of Finance has certainly shown a great deal of courage; it is definitely a first step towards the sound management of public funds.

To have a good understanding of the current economic climate and take effective action, we must, first, identify the economic changes experienced in the last 20 years and, second, have a clear vision of the goals to be achieved and the concrete ways to achieve them.

We are, of course, facing major economic changes. They have brought hardships and restrictions to all our fellow citizens. Their impact on disadvantaged groups is even stronger. Salaries

have gone down. Jobs are getting scarcer and less stable. Access to social programs is increasingly restricted.

In the next few minutes, I will review the changes and propose goals and ways to reconcile economic and human considerations.

Successful reconciliation of these considerations depends on our ability to strike a healthy balance between competition and individual achievement, on the one hand, and sharing and co-operation, on the other hand.

In the last 20 years, our economy has been shaken by three major changes: the global economic slowdown which started in 1973; two major anti-inflationary recessions in 1981 and 1990; and, in the last decade, the economic system's gradual rejection of people with little education.

Before 1973, our average standard of living rose by 40 per cent every decade. All classes of society were reaping the fruits of this growth. Since then, the rate of economic development has barely exceeded 15 per cent per decade. Several groups, including less qualified workers, have even seen their standard of living drop in absolute terms. This long term economic slowdown is common to all industrialized countries.

In the wake of the great depression and the second world war, all countries enjoyed enormous catch-up growth potential based on delayed technological development, cheap natural resources and an agricultural workforce ready to move to the cities. It took us a quarter of a century to use up this potential. Since then, all countries from Finland to Canada and from Italy to Australia have been having a hard time. Nothing is easy any more.

We managed for a while to circumvent the new economic constraints. The declining birthrate, the generalization of female labour, the high prices obtained from the sale of our natural resources until 1981, the debt increase in the 1980s allowed us to constantly defer until later the painful adjustment in our material expectations. The strong decline in consumption during the current recession underlines our belated awareness that money no longer grows on trees. Members of the middle class have finally started to tighten their belts.

But people are very nervous. Economic stagnation has resulted in both an increase in the need for social protection and a narrowing of the tax base financing our social safety net. Governments have managed to partly resolve this contradiction by raising taxes, which fuels the anger of taxpayers, already aroused by the state of the economy. This situation threatens our income security system, which is already starting to erode. Sharing does not come as easily when there is no growth.

Most industrialized countries started off the 1980s with an inflation rate of 12 per cent and were blamed for it. At the instigation of central banks, governments then subjected their economies to two anti-inflationary recessions. In 1981, Canada suffered the most severe recession in the industrialized world and inflation was brought down from 12 per cent to five per cent. Later on, starting in 1988, the Government of Canada and the Bank of Canada undertook to finish the job and force the rate of inflation further down, from five to two per cent. This target was just met in 1992.

Once again, Canada stood out because, once again, it put itself through the worst recession in the industrialized world.

These two recessions have led to a massive underutilization of our human and material resources in the past few decades. The resulting loss of income for Quebec is already to the tune of $100 billion. Obviously, this loss is on top of the general economic slowdown I mentioned earlier.

The $100 billion swallowed up by the two recessions represents an astronomical and senseless waste. It is cruel, considering the hardship and countless psychological, family and social problems it caused. It is also fundamentally unfair. In addition, this loss of $100 billion so far is not distributed equally amongst all people. Small businesses and low income earners are being hit absolutely disproportionately. Yet, they are not responsible, in the first place for causing the inflation we are now trying to curb.

Nowhere is growing chronic unemployment more obvious than among workers of all ages who did not finish high school. For the past decade, people in this category have slowly been sinking deeper and deeper. They are offered less and less money for jobs that are fewer and fewer and increasingly unstable; the rate of unemployment is increasingly higher than average. They have started to leave the labour force massively, generally ending up on the CSST or welfare rolls.

One third of Quebecers between the ages of 20 and 64, three times as many as in Germany or Japan, do not have a high school diploma. Barely one third of them have jobs. They are in a desperate situation. Compared to this group, the Gaspesian Peninsula is a real employment paradise. School may get you nowhere, as the saying has it, but it sure seems that ignorance does not get you much further.

Workers with little education were affected by the long term economic slowdown, like everyone else, and by the 1981 and 1990 recessions, which have hit very hard, but they also seem to be gradually pushed aside.

We have in Canada great economists and great minds. In Quebec, we have an economist of nationwide and even worldwide reputation. I have had the pleasure of meeting him on a

number of occasions and hearing him testify here, before the finance committee. I am referring to Pierre Fortin, from the Université du Québec in Montreal.

Mr. Fortin has shown a great deal of common sense in his approach to the economic situation. He came up with a three-part social and economic program. That is, first, given the vulnerability of people who never graduated from high school on the job market, he said that we need to create jobs as quickly as possible mostly for their benefit, second, to protect what has already been acquired, and third, to undertake a second educational revolution.

I will now comment briefly on these points. It is very clear that large scale job creation will obviously reduce the amounts paid out in unemployment insurance benefits, social assistance and other benefits. It is also very clear that, by creating jobs, the federal government will generate more revenue for deficit reduction.

Mr. Fortin does not suggest that the government increase spending but rather that it exert pressure to maintain our interest rates under or around the five per cent mark or thereabouts, like our American neighbours.

If interest rates were at five per cent, many small and medium size businesses would have access to the funds needed to create enough jobs to put all of the unemployed back to work. I think that makes eminent sense.

Secondly, we clearly do not want to be irresponsible and to spark another increase in inflation. On the contrary, job creation and increased profits will hedge against the likelihood of inflation becoming a problem. The danger of inflation flaring up over the next three to four months is very minimal.

Thirdly, we must undertake a second educational revolution. Obviously, people between the ages of 20 and 64 who do not have a high school diploma need vocational training. We are not talking about university diplomas, we are talking about training spread over one or two years. That essentially is my conclusion.

I would like to say to my colleagues that there are some good ideas out there and that it is high time that we in the House of Commons take heed of them.

Petitions February 20th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, my second petition is from a group of concerned citizens who

call upon Parliament and petition Parliament to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act to protect individuals from discrimination based on sexual orientation.

Petitions February 20th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 36, I have two different petitions.

The first one is from very concerned citizens who would like to see a review and revision of our laws concerning young offenders by empowering the courts to prosecute and punish young offenders who are terrorizing society by releasing their names and lowering the age limit to allow persecution to meet the severity of the crime.

Cuba February 20th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, first of all, I would like to support the motion put forward by the member for Burnaby-Kingsway regarding Cuba. It is obvious that the Reform member who spoke before me had blinders on when he went to Cuba. It certainly was a change of scenery, but it obviously did not help him change his mind.

I think that the description he gave is exaggerated and that Cubans are not slaves to a dictator. I saw people who are trying to build a future for themselves, who are standing tall instead of being down on their knees as they once were. Cubans have shown a lot of courage. I would like to say that successive governments here in Canada have had the wisdom to stay in contact with Cuba, and to maintain diplomatic and trade relations with that country.

They have done it because Canada is a humanitarian nation that will always stand up for justice. Of course, anybody who has had the opportunity to visit Cuba and to meet with politicians there is well aware of the situation. Those politicians did not try to make us believe that they live in a paradise. They know that they have problems. They know that Cubans are making sacrifices but that they have the motivation to succeed.

The embargo imposed on Cuba by the United States is inhumane and we hope the United States will soon come to its senses and realize that making a whole country suffer is insane. Cubans are trying to protect what they have. They know that they do not live in a paradise, but they stand tall and want to preserve their values.

Federal Public Service February 10th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the President of the Treasury Board.

In view of the alarming predictions made by the Public Service Commission regarding the numbers of jobs that could be cut in the public sector and, consequently, in the private sector, can the minister tell us what kind of measures he intends to take in order to minimize the impact the re-organization of the public service will have on the national capital area?

Taxation December 13th, 1994

Mr. Speaker, I wish to point out to my colleagues that the Quebec independence movement is not a threat to national unity. Quebecers will settle the problem concerning the Quebec independence movement. What really threatens the well-being and unity of our country is a fiscal and monetary system in need of thorough reform.

The tax system is unfair and inequitable to the majority of Canadians. The helplessness felt by Canadians has become a source of frustration and undermines the credibility of elected officials and democratic institutions. This threatens to break up our country unless we tackle this major problem right away.

Personal Income Tax December 12th, 1994

Mr. Speaker, what would you say about a major simplification of our federal and provincial legislation on personal income tax? Instead of continuing to increase the number of deductions, credits and tax breaks, there would be only one universal basic exemption, which would be considerably larger. This exemption would only vary on the basis of the number of children or dependants, age, health and possibly charitable donations.

The result of this operation, taxable income, would be taxed at a considerably lower uniform rate, which would be the same for all taxpayers without exception. This is called a single tax. Its time has come.

Mrs. Marie Malavoy November 28th, 1994

Mr. Speaker, the resignation of Quebec's new minister of culture, Marie Malavoy, is indeed regrettable. However, the unacceptable justifications she gave for her illegal actions are even more regrettable.

Ms. Malavoy probably forgot that Canada welcomed her and her parents to one of the best countries in the world, if not the best, where she enjoyed all the advantages of a generous country, even becoming a faculty dean, something which immigrants cannot aspire to in France. Furthermore, did she think about the thousands of Canadians who gave their lives to help liberate her native country?

There is an old saying that gratitude is the highest form of justice. The former minister's comments show a lack of gratitude as well as a poor sense of justice.

Multiculturalism November 25th, 1994

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Secretary of State for Multiculturalism.

In view of the recommendations made by the Reform Party, which wants to eliminate all programs related to multiculturalism, can the minister tell us again how Canadians benefit from the policy on multiculturalism, and can she also tell us if it is worth investing in such a policy? In other words, could the minister shed some light on this issue?

International Trade October 24th, 1994

Mr. Speaker, over the next few years, China may become the number one country in the world for exports, and this is very important for Canada, considering that we are a major exporter. The decision made by the Prime Minister to go to China with the provincial premiers is a very important initiative. Indeed, we had to send our top officials to China in order to show that Canada means business when it comes to exports.

Consequently, I think the premier of Quebec should reconsider his decision and accompany the Prime Minister and the other provincial premiers to China. It is important that the leaders of a major exporting country such as ours show solidarity in such circumstances.