Crucial Fact

  • His favourite word was liberal.

Last in Parliament October 2000, as NDP MP for Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre (Saskatchewan)

Lost his last election, in 2000, with 42% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Gasoline Prices June 8th, 1994

Mr. Speaker, the price of gasoline has gone up again in Regina and other parts of Canada with no explanation. There have been no new taxes and the price of crude has declined from one year ago.

The price of gas jumped three cents a litre for no reason except to make oil companies richer. Energy consumers are angry and want an investigation into why they must pay more to line the pockets of big oil giants.

The government must put an end to the gouging at the pumps now. Canadians need an energy price review commission to encourage fair competitive pricing and to review monopoly pricing.

Last year Esso Canada made a profit of $582 million and 75 per cent of that money went to the U.S. as dividends. Companies like Esso show little respect for the consumers in this country. Huge profits do not mean fair prices but higher prices. Why? We want to know why.

The government must put an end to this outrageous practice of price gouging. I look forward to seeing what action the government will take on this matter.

Points Of Order June 1st, 1994

Yes.

Points Of Order June 1st, 1994

Mr. Speaker, I am not certain whether this is a point of order or not but I stand as a duly elected member of the House of Commons to ask for your guidance with respect to the previous point of order on which I had wished to speak.

I understand you ruled that there would be no more speakers on it. However it is my sense, being a duly elected member of the House of Commons from the constituency of Regina-Lumsden, on a matter of a point of order that is important to my constituents and to me and to others in Canada, that I should be allowed to express the insights I have on the issue.

Coastal Fisheries Protection Act May 11th, 1994

Madam Speaker, yes. First of all I would like to express my appreciation to the member for Delta for allowing me to speak first. I have a plane to catch shortly and I want to say a very few brief words on behalf of the New Democratic Party caucus.

First of all as the fisheries and oceans critic for the New Democratic Party I would like to inform the government that our caucus does support Bill C-29. I would also like to say that we do not just support the bill, we would also like to commend the government on the legislation tabled yesterday in the House of Commons. I would like to offer my personal congratulations to the minister for his very impassioned plea and his very articulate speech this afternoon in support of this bill and in defence of Canada and its responsibility to protect this very important national and renewable resource.

It is high time that the fragile straddling stocks, those species which swim inside and outside the 200-mile limit in the nose and tail area of the Grand Banks, are protected from foreign vessel overfishing.

The previous government under Brian Mulroney allowed this situation to go on for far too long without acting in the best interests of the fishery and the best interests of Canada. I am very pleased to see the Liberal government taking action to protect these endangered stocks which have been very significantly depleted over the years, in particular from so-called flag of convenience plundering. It is our hope the bill will ultimately help the fishery as well as the depleted stocks.

I have spoken with fishermen and other contacts in the eastern provinces. The general consensus is that people are very pleased to see this long overdue legislation. There is some concern however about whether the legislation goes far enough since there are foreign vessels fishing off the 200-mile limit under flags such as Spain and Portugal and not just flags of convenience.

My question to the minister during the course of the review would be will the government be able to deal with these vessels as well? My sense is that these sorts of restrictions will be imposed on members of the Northwest Atlantic Fisheries Organization. The minister has affirmed that this legislation will address this very important question to those people in Atlantic Canada.

Also I hope the government will back up this legislation with the resources necessary to enforce it, in particular by having enough personnel and equipment to monitor the situation on a regular full time basis.

Having just met with members of the United Fishermen and Allied Workers' Union from the west coast of Canada, I am aware of the history of government mismanagement of the fisheries resource on the west coast by the previous government as well.

Besides concerns regarding stock management there is a burning concern, and I would even say a raging debate, regarding the Department of Fisheries and Oceans licensing policy as witnessed recently in the roe herring fishery. Corporate boat owners, or armchair fishermen as they are called, are being allowed to rent their licences to active fishermen who pay exorbitant prices to lease the licence for a specific fishery.

The Government of Canada has not officially recognized these rental practices but at the local level DFO officials sanction them. This is a very serious situation in licensing which is destructive to the fishery industry, not to mention the loss in revenue to the government from licensing.

The point is that I hope the government will not just stop here with Bill C-29. It is our hope in the New Democratic Party that the government will learn from this situation on the east coast and will not leave the situation on the west coast to deteriorate to the point at which it is beyond help.

We as New Democrats hope that the lesson in this terrible condition on the east coast will ensure that the west coast fishery is protected for future generations of Canadians. In summary, the New Democratic Party in the House of Commons supports this bill. We will facilitate its quick passage in this House.

Canada Petroleum Resources Act May 9th, 1994

Mr. Speaker, on May 3 last I asked the Minister of Industry if he would be waiting until after the Quebec election to repeal Bill C-91, the Drug Patent Act, or if he would act in the best interests of all Canadians who use prescription drugs and repeal Bill C-91 now.

This bill costs Canadians between $1 billion and $2 billion a year in extra drug costs.

In question period today the member for Laurier-Sainte-Marie asked the Prime Minister again if he would be reviewing the legislation. He claimed that any review of this legislation brought instability to Quebec. This accusation is of course outrageous in the context of his party's goal to break up Canada.

My sense is that the government will not do anything until after the Quebec election or even until after the referendum in 1995. Why is this government caving in to this pressure from the official opposition?

I was particularly shocked by the Prime Minister's response today when he said that the Minister of Industry would not review the legislation if he was satisfied that the pharmaceutical manufacturers were spending money on research. This is contradictory to comments made by the Minister of Industry in April. The minister stated at that time that a review was imminent. Why is this government now stalling? Why is there this disagreement?

I have a quote here from the Kitchener-Waterloo Record of Saturday, April 30, 1994 and I quote: Foreign Affairs Minister Andre Ouellet admitted that this Bill C-91 will cost the country billions in higher pharmaceutical prices by granting 20 years of patent protection to brand name drugs''. He is now saying:We are not going to review it because we don't want to rock the boat''.

Bill C-91 has caused grief to Canadian consumers. There should be no further delays in repealing this legislation. We have some prescription drugs which have increased by up to 120 per cent since Bill C-91 was passed. Bloc members have made a great deal of noise about how upset they would be if the government made any changes to that bill. They voted in favour of the bill when it was passed in the House in the last session when they were Tories.

It is strange that Bloc members, who take pride about representing Quebecers, could be so out of touch with their constituents. In a recent survey conducted by the Canadian Drug Manufacturers Association, 79 per cent of drug consumers said that the costs of prescription drugs were too high. This is 16 per cent higher than the national average outside Quebec.

Many Liberal candidates including the Prime Minister and the Deputy Prime Minister campaigned on repealing Bill C-91. They knew that Canadians were angry at how expensive their drugs had become. They spoke about repealing the bill with respect to prescription drugs. They knew what Canadians wanted and now is the time to follow through on their promise. By delaying to make changes in this legislation is to say to Canadians that this is no longer a priority. It is a betrayal to Canadians. It is a flip-flop.

The Liberals are saying they are not serious about the issue. They are having second thoughts about making changes to Bill C-91. That would truly be dishonourable, if that were to be the case. However it is not much different from the former Tories: Liberal, Tory, same old story.

The Minister of Industry mentioned in his response to me that he was looking into the implications of changes to this bill under GATT. I remind the government there was a clause in GATT for "reasonable exceptions" under which the old system of compulsory licensing could be introduced. Canadians should not be surprised that the Liberals have a change of heart. After all, it is not the first time we have seen Liberals campaign on one side of an issue only to change their position later on after the campaign. For some people who have forgotten, NAFTA is an example, as is cruise missile testing.

Canada Petroleum Resources Act May 9th, 1994

Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the New Democratic Party caucus and as natural resources critic for the New Democratic Party in this House, I am pleased to participate in the debate regarding Bill C-25.

Our party throughout the last number of years has taken a very active interest in the natural resources sector in Canada. In Saskatchewan we have been involved at least in terms of the provincial government in encouraging oil companies to pursue enhanced oil recovery techniques.

I am happy to say that in Saskatchewan we have seen Morgan Hydrocarbons, Sceptre Resources, North Canadian Oils and a number of other companies pioneer the technology of horizontal well drilling. It has been very successful.

Before I get into that, I want to say that on behalf of our caucus I give our commitment that on condition we will support this bill. We believe the bill is important in terms of economic activity in the north. We believe it is extremely important with respect to creating jobs in the north and other parts of the country.

We particularly support the aspect where the country receives one-third of the profits from this project. One of the conditions in terms of our support is that the agreement continues to give Canadians one-third of the profits from this project in its expanded mode.

The reason I say that is with enhanced oil recovery and particularly horizontal oil well drilling, that increases production of wells in the Saskatchewan experience up to 500 and 600 per cent. That means when the production increases so dramatically, it shortens the life of the resource in the ground in terms of how long one can do this.

The other reason I am concerned about this bill, and I will be asking these questions in committee, is this. We in the House are not quite sure whether there will be any reduction in royalties as a result of the increased production that horizontal oil well drilling will provide.

If we continue to get our 5 per cent royalty and we continue to receive one-third of the profits and the spinoff from the expenditures by Imperial Oil with respect to jobs, that will be suitable in terms of our requirements with respect to supporting the bill.

We are very pleased to hear that the bill will only be passed on the condition that there is some commitment to provide the Sahtu nation with the bill it is interested in seeing put through the House of Commons as well.

As a member of the House and as a Canadian I am concerned that we monitor the impact on the environment as this project proceeds, in particular with horizontal oil well drilling. We have found in Saskatchewan's experience that the EOR which takes place is not dramatically problematic for the environment, but there are some concerns in very environmentally fragile areas. I would hope the government would certainly ensure the monitoring process involve the government when these things are watched from time to time.

I am not sure whether the other questions I have are for the House or for the committee. The New Democrats will be monitoring the length of time Imperial Oil will recapture its capital costs. We believe there is an opportunity because of the longevity of the resource project for the oil company to recapture its capital costs over a more moderate period of time as opposed to an accelerated period of time.

Imperial Oil is telling the government that the resource is very solid, that there is a lot of it in the ground, and that it is a long term project. I have every reason to believe that to be the case. I think as an assurance our government should say if that is the case it will allow it to write off its capital cost allowance and other capital costs over a moderate period of time as opposed to a very short period of time. This would be a responsible approach to the project. The other upside to doing so is that when it is done Canadians can share, as can the Sahtu, in the profits those wells will provide over the short term.

I thank members of the House for allowing me to raise our questions on the matter. In summary, we will support the bill as long as the concerns we have raised are addressed in a reasonable fashion.

(Motion agreed to, bill read the second time and referred to a committee.)

Bill C-91 May 3rd, 1994

Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister of Industry. It concerns Bill C-91, the drug patent legislation.

Since this bill passed in the last Parliament drug prices have skyrocketed and Canadian consumers are being gouged with high prices for prescription drugs.

The minister knows this to be true because he has stated he will be reviewing Bill C-91 soon. The minister is also aware that the Leader of the Opposition supports the wishes of multinational drug companies in Quebec.

To the minister, is the government going to continue to play politics with people's health by waiting until after the Quebec election to make any changes to this bill or is he going to repeal this disastrous legislation now to protect all Canadian consumers?

Prescription Drugs April 28th, 1994

Mr. Speaker, on April 22 I raised with the Minister for International Trade a question concerning the recent decision by the U.S. government which affected Canadian exports of durum wheat.

What happened at that time is that the American farm lobby pressured the U.S. government, the U.S. trade representative and the President to initiate some anti-dumping regulations and penalties according to the GATT agreement.

What this has done is really create an air of uncertainty for Canadian farmers, in particular farmers I represent in the province of Saskatchewan. The problem we have with this is that the Americans in every election year seemed to initiate a number of anti-dumping and countervailing actions on our Canadian exports.

This is a very serious concern because it seems that we signed the free trade agreements in 1988 and NAFTA in 1993. We signed last week the GATT agreements to facilitate freer trade, competitive trade between nations, particularly between Canada and the U.S.

Since these agreements have been signed we tend to have all of these actions, which are extremely difficult for many of our producers, particularly the grain producers in western Canada and in other parts of the country when they have a very good market. They have a very good product and they are very competitive in terms of their product. It is not subsidized to any great extent. It is an action of fair trade.

I was not totally pleased with the response I received during question period. It was very short. What I wanted to do is give an overview of my experience in Washington last week. I met with a number of U.S. congressmen to discuss trade issues as well as with the U.S. trade representative and other people.

What I concluded from all this is that in private the U.S. congressmen understand the issue of durum wheat imports into the U.S. They understand the complexities of trade and the commonalties between the U.S. and Canada. In many ways they are aware of the very important fact that Canada is the U.S.' major trading partner and vice versa.

Privately they are very consoling and they are saying do not worry about these things, they are pretty important to the farmers they represent but it is election year.

This is the point. We have all of the Congress of 435 representatives, congressmen, running for re-election this fall. We have 34 of the hundred senators running for re-election in the U.S. this fall. It seems that every two years, which is a very gruelling schedule for elections, the U.S. has a large number of these anti-dumping and countervailing actions taken upon Canada. It is not only Canada, it always means to target other countries like Brazil and Europe and South America and some of the Pacific rim countries, but it always includes Canada because it is really politically astute for it.

My question at this time is the same except I would like a little more information from the government. Can we have this government's assurance that it is going to protect Canadian farmers' interests and not cave in to this American pre-election posturing?

What I am looking for in specific terms is what is our week by week, month by month response to this action, which I classify as an unfriendly action on our country, to the Americans and to some of the businesses that are based in America that do business with Canada?

Can the hon. member give us a precise overview on what that might be?

Prescription Drugs April 28th, 1994

moved:

That, in the opinion of this House, the government should consider repealing the Patent Act Amendment Act, Chapter 2, Statutes of Canada, 1993, to make prescription drugs more affordable to Canadians and to encourage the creation of jobs in Canada by generic drug companies.

Mr. Speaker, it is my pleasure this afternoon to move this motion in the House of Commons. Bill C-91 in essence ended Canada's compulsory drug licensing system in place since 1969 which helped make medicines more affordable.

Bill C-91 increased patent protection for the large multinational pharmaceutical corporations. What that means is that those drug companies were able to extend the monopoly pricing for periods of up to 20 years for their prescription drugs. Canadians are deeply concerned about the consequences of this bill. What Bill C-91 has done is increase the cost of some prescription drugs by about 120 per cent in the past three years.

As a result of this bill, for example, the Saskatchewan drug plan, a government funded plan, has had to diminish its coverage for Saskatchewan citizens quite significantly but still pays about $10 million more a year for the plan because of increased prescription drug prices.

The boost in the cost of provincial drug programs ultimately means you pay more for drugs and increases Canada's dependence on the most powerful pharmaceutical companies. Bill C-91 also weakens Canadians generic drug companies at the expense of foreign multinational pharmaceuticals. It also sharply deteriorates our own pharmaceutical trade balance, making Canada a warehouse for drug imports. The biggest impact is on the consumer, in particular those people who require prescription drugs, the sick, the elderly, people from all walks of life.

The Eastman committee which studied drug patents and costs in 1983 claimed that across Canada at that time the public saved $211 million per year in drug costs from generics. In 1986 the Canadian Drug Manufacturers Association, which is the organization of companies that manufacture generic drugs in Canada, estimated that compulsory licensing saved us about $500 million a year.

We do not have an updated figure but for health care plans in this country which total about $70 billion in costs to the government the components of the pharmaceuticals in that $70 billion cost is about 17 per cent, which means it costs Canadians abut $13 billion or $14 billion a year. Estimates today indicate that we would be saving between $1 billion and $2 billion a year if Bill C-91 did not exist.

Not only do we save on the generic price but whenever a generic equivalent is introduced to the market the brand name product falls about 20 per cent to compete with it.

The Eastman committee at that time recommended a maximum monopoly of four years. The government legislated seven years for some drugs and ten years for others. Someone from the Department of Consumer and Corporate Affairs said we did not give them a nickel more than they asked for. Now it is not just seven years or ten years or even seventeen, but Bill C-91 gives these pharmaceuticals 20 years of protection.

There is a well know drug, an antibiotic, that is marketed as Septra by a company called Burroughs Wellcome and there is Bactrim by another company called Hoffmann-La Roche. This medicine is composed of two constituents that work together to produce their effects in the urinary tract and in the respiratory system.

One of these components is owned by the British drug company Burroughs Wellcome and the other component is owned by Hofmann-La Roche of Switzerland.

Not only do the components work symbiotically, so do the companies. Wellcome makes enough of its product to supply its own needs and that of the Roche company while the Roche company makes sufficient of its own product to supply itself and Burroughs Wellcome.

Then each company advertises its own product as superior to that of the opposite company and will produce research material to even prove it. Yet the only difference is that the one company markets this tablet in green and the other is coloured white. There is a slight difference in shape but they both contain the identical amounts of the same two drugs that came from the same two companies. They come from the same machinery in the same factories. Not only that, but they each thereafter supply these components to generic drug companies who could produce them under compulsory licensing at a cheaper rate and then these pharmaceuticals have the cheek to call themselves ethical pharmaceutical manufacturers.

An article in the Globe and Mail of January 20, 1993 cites the chairman of a company that administers many private drug benefit plans in Ontario. He told the Senate committee investigating this matter that the average cost of a prescription drug in Ontario in 1987 was $12.52. Five years later it was $21.12, an increase of 75 per cent over five years for the average prescription drug. He projected that by the year 2000, six short years away, the average would be about $34.

Of course the federal government's rationale for C-91 was that great big bogeyman GATT, the General Agreement on Trade and Tariffs. Bill C-91 was retroactive to three years prior to the GATT's being implemented before it took effect. My concern is why should Canada have internal matters decided by foreign governments?

As a matter of fact, Canadian drug manufacturers have indicated in their research that under the present Patent Act Canadian generic pharmaceutical manufacturers are prohibited from producing for export products that are under patent in Canada, even if the product is not under patent in the country we wish to export to.

For example, given that many patents are granted in the United States before they are granted in Canada, patents will expire in the U.S. before they expire in Canada. The Canadian generic pharmaceutical industry must now locate manufacturing facilities in the U.S. when a patent expires there before it expires in Canada.

This means we cannot continue to create jobs and produce our export products here in Canada. In effect we are being forced to export Canadian investment and jobs which we prefer to locate right here. Unless this problem is quickly rectified we will be forced to curtail more jobs in Canada and invest and create jobs in the U.S., Mexico and other export markets.

The repeal of Bill C-91 would demonstrate to Canadians that the Canadian government still has control over its domestic affairs rather than the multinational foreign drug manufacturers. If this bill is not repealed it will prove once again to Canadians that the Liberals are no different than the Conservatives.

We have often heard in many jurisdictions in this country the phrase "Liberal, Tory, same old story".

My sense of it is that unless the Liberals who voted in opposition against Bill C-91 repeal this legislation they will be no better than their sisters, the Conservative Party. I think actions speak louder than words. It is incumbent upon the Liberal government to take action on this bill and repeal it so that we can save a whole lot of jobs and a whole lot of money for our drug plans and for Canadian consumers in the end.

When the Tories passed the drug patent legislation, Bill C-91, New Democrats predicted it was a prescription for problems. The legislation gave brand name drug companies a 20 year monopoly to charge basically whatever they wanted for prescription drugs. New Democrats said that the granting of generic drug licences would be eliminated and that consumers would bear the brunt of decreased competition and increased prices. Without competition big name pharmaceutical companies would be able to set the price of being healthy.

According to a 1986 Ontario report on drug competition when five versions of the same drug were on the market the cheapest generic drug was almost half the price of the original. Since Bill C-91 was passed this type of saving to the consumer is a thing of the past.

I have here some brand name-generic price comparisons for the top 25 genericized products. For example, for the drug Cimetidine which is an ulcer drug-that is the drug name, the brand name is Tagamet-the generic price is about 80 per cent less expensive than the original brand name. We are actually paying 80 per cent more for the brand name of a drug which produces the same ultimate result.

For Naproxen which is an arthritis drug, the brand name of which is Naprosyn, the per cent savings if we use a generic is about 76 per cent. There is a whole list of examples. Every one of these examples is at least 15 per cent cheaper, and in many cases up to 80 per cent cheaper by using generics.

What we can conclude from this is that the consumers in Canada are being gouged by Bill C-91 which allows the pharmaceutical corporations to gouge consumers. New Democrats in this country, New Democrats in this House of Commons, oppose this kind of gouging of consumers.

Even provincial drug plans will not be able to shield Canadians from the high cost of being healthy. Cash strapped provinces will be forced to delete more and more drugs from the list of the products they pay for, creating a situation like that in the U.S. where people are dying because they cannot afford brand name drugs and they do not have an option to purchase generic drugs.

Saskatchewan was convinced that Bill C-91 was a severe blow to health care in Saskatchewan. At that time it estimated it would cost its drug plan between $6 million and $10 million more each year. Not only has it proven to cost $10 million a year more, but it has had to reduce the coverage because of the massive increases in drugs.

The Tories argument in favour of Bill C-91 is that without patent protection Canada is in danger of losing research and development investments. In support of this claim Judy Erola, former Liberal Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs and president of the Pharmaceutical Manufacturers Association of Canada, resorted to using blackmail as a rallying cry. She claimed that the brand name industry would pass us by if patent protection was not extended. While Bill C-91 is in effect the promised drug jobs have not materialized and in fact layoffs have occurred.

As recently as April 26, 1994 in the Globe and Mail it was stated: ``Earlier this month Eli Lilly Canada Inc. of Toronto scrapped a plan to add 150 manufacturing jobs and a major expansion first announced at the time of C-91's passage. The company says it still plans to pump more money into R and D but shelved the $170 million expansion because of cuts dictated by its U.S. parent, the Eli Lilly Company of Minneapolis, Minnesota''.

Here is one of many examples of this wonderful Bill C-91 falling short from every single promise that was ever made by the former government.

The problem with the arguments put forward by Ms. Erola is that the drug companies are not legally obligated to use their increased profits to conduct research and create jobs in Canada and past experience points to the contrary. When Bill C-22 was passed by the Tories in 1987 the same promises were made. However, Stats Canada figures show that only 500 new research jobs were created and these were offset by more than 1,000 jobs lost in drug manufacturing. In addition, Canada has no large drug companies with basic research facilities headquartered here.

We have some very serious problems in our health care program in Canada. We have increased prices in drugs which have skyrocketed since the implementation of Bill C-91. I have chosen this motion because it is important not just to me but to millions of Canadians.

I have presented in this House petitions from thousands of people who are opposed to Bill C-91 and want generic drug companies to produce lower cost drugs for their use in terms of addressing their health problems. I have letters from a number of organizations. I want to read one into the record. This was sent to me by Mr. F.J. Lancaster, the immediate past national president of the Federal Superannuates National Association, which represent about 70,000 retired federal civil servants in its 74 branches across the country. He says regarding Bill C-91: "It is insidious legislation and more so because one 10-year extension of patent rights on new drugs had already been granted, I believe in the 1970s, and Bill C-91 was a further sellout to the international drug companies. The costs of prescription drugs have risen dramatically. That is hurting the poor and aged on small incomes and causing some provincial government medical plans to virtually remove from their health care plans benefits related to prescription drugs because the plans cannot afford the coverage".

He continues: "As a result, the users of prescription drugs have had to assume an additional and very heavy financial burden. While our organization is strictly non-partisan, we will fight the government of the day on any legislation inimical to our interests and we will support the efforts of any of our parliamentary representatives who oppose such type of legislation". He represents 70,000 superannuates.

I received a number of letters, one addressed to the Prime Minister from one of my constituents, urging the government to immediately review Bill C-91. This was dated January 5, 1994. I have not yet heard whether the Prime Minister responded. I am sure he responded to this constituent. These are examples of people across the country who are concerned.

Another example is on April 5, 1994 a motion was passed in the Saskatchewan legislature, the province that I represent in this House of Commons, which was unanimously supported that read as follows: "That this assembly urge the federal government to repeal Bill C-91 because it provides excessive profits to foreign drug companies, causes severe financial hardships to prescription drug users, particularly the elderly, and makes provincial drug plans economically impossible".

The entire legislature, which is composed of 54 New Democrats, 3 Liberals and 10 Conservatives, supported this motion unanimously.

Not only is this evidence I provided important, but a poll taken recently conducted with about 1,100 Canadians was done by Insight Canada Research for the Canadian Drug Manufacturers Association. In this poll they found that 63 per cent of Canadian respondents are concerned about the high price of prescription drugs. Seventy-nine per cent of those people reside in Quebec. They say that 79 per cent of the Quebec population are concerned about it, 71 per cent of the population in the prairies are concerned about it and 77 per cent in Atlantic Canada. It also found that 75 per cent of Canadians believe the federal government should control the price of prescription drugs. Eighty-seven per cent of Quebecers believe the federal government should control the price of prescription drugs. They believe they are too high.

I was curious to note in the House of Commons during Question Period today the Bloc Quebecois member who stood up and said: "We oppose repealing Bill C-91. We want to see this bill protected and actually enhanced and strengthened". They believe it is a good bill. That is not surprising because

when they were in the previous Parliament they supported this legislation.

What I cannot find a rationale for is that they really are supporting the international pharmaceutical corporations at the expense of gouging their own Quebec French Canadian consumer. They have in essence betrayed their own people. They got elected on a policy of so-called social democracy and the first opportunity they have to protect their people, they knife them in the gut. I think it is disgusting. All I can say is shame on them for that kind of performance and that kind of stand on this very, very important issue.

Bill C-91 is a threat to medicare, it is a threat to our Canadian generic drug manufacturers, it is a threat to consumers of prescription drugs. Bill C-91 is a threat to our provincial drug plans and it is a threat to the sick and the elderly.

It helps no one except the large multinational corporations. It does not help anybody else in this country. That is why I believe the government of the day has to support this.

I might say that in the previous Parliament many members opposite who are now in government, including the Prime Minister of Canada and the Minister of Health, opposed Bill C-91. I am asking them in their positions in cabinet and controlling the government to follow their instincts and their position in the previous Parliament and to repeal Bill C-91.

I end by saying that I was very pleased to hear from many members of Parliament who support this motion, including the member for the riding of Ontario and, of course, the member for Notre-Dame-de-Grâce.

I know my time has ended. I reiterate by saying that I am urging the federal government to repeal Bill C-91 for the sake of our social programs, for the sake of medicare, for the sake of the sick and the elderly in our country.

National Sport Act April 27th, 1994

Mr. Speaker, it is my pleasure to join with my colleagues in the House of Commons this evening to support Bill C-212.

I stand in this House as a certified CAHA hockey coach. I am from Saskatchewan and we do have world curling champions, both men and women. Hockey is played in every community on every dugout in the winter and on every piece of ice that one can find in every community in our province.

That is a tribute to the type of thing we are doing today in the House of Commons, making hockey along with lacrosse our official national sports.

Every Canadian either played hockey or wants to play hockey. It is a dream of almost every young hockey player to play in the NHL.

Although Saskatchewan does not have any NHL teams we have exported a number of NHL hockey players to make up a number of teams. For example, we have Mike Modano playing for the Dallas Stars. He played for the Prince Albert Raiders at one point. Ron Grechner who is now with the Sabres is from North Battleford. Theoren Fleury from the Calgary Flames was playing for Moose Jaw at one point. Jeff Shantz is from the Regina Pats. He is playing with the Chicago Black Hawks.

Of course Wendel Clark who is from Kelvington, Saskatchewan is playing with the Toronto Maple Leafs. Doug Wickenheiser, the first draft choice of the Montreal Canadiens, is from the Regina Pats. We have as well Barry Melrose who played hockey in the NHL and coaches the Los Angeles Kings. I believe he is from Kelvington as well, the same place as Wendel Clark. Bill Hicke played many years ago for the champion Montreal Canadiens.

We have from Floral, Saskatchewan Mr. Hockey, Gordie Howe. Hockey is such a popular sport in our province that there is even a statue to Gordie Howe among the many statues in Saskatoon that my colleague from across the floor would acknowledge and certainly support.

As a matter of fact, Gordie Howe is such a major figure in Saskatchewan that he has even got some colleagues of mine in university passing grades. For example, we had a psychology exam one day and one of my friends from Saskatchewan did not know the answers so he wrote a story about Gordie Howe which had nothing to do with psychology. The professor gave him an A for this exam because he was a Gordie Howe fan too. I think that it has interesting implications as we go through the hockey process.

I want to not only support this bill but acknowledge in this House that the Regina Pat Canadians are the 1994 Canadian midget champions. They have played very well throughout the season and ended up winning the entire championship recently.

Not only have I been a coach, I have worked with many individuals in the community. I want to acknowledge this evening the volunteers who have spent hundreds of hours and many years in particular in my district, Regina-Lumsden, working for both the parks and recreation leagues which have in my constituency probably about 2,000 hockey players overall, as well as those in the more competitive city league of Regina which has about 1,600 players for the entire city at a higher level.

I think what they are doing is very important. Individuals like Greg Mario, president of the Regina Northwest Sports Association, and Harald Gohlke, vice-president in charge of hockey,

have made significant contributions to the community by being involved in the sport, in the community by teaching young players not only skills but how to get along in life as they age and become very reliable and admirable citizens of our country.

There are about eight hockey rinks in my constituency. They are always filled from five o'clock in the morning until late at night. We have not only the recreation leagues and the competitive leagues but the senior leagues, the oldtimers, those over 30 as well. Everybody in my community, if they do not play hockey, has played hockey. I think that is an indication of the broad based support for this very important national sport that we are approving this evening.

In summary, I want to say that "he shoots, he scores" is a very well known slogan in hockey. As far as I am concerned everybody in this House this evening has taken a shot today and everybody has scored.