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Crucial Fact

  • His favourite word was senate.

Last in Parliament October 2000, as Reform MP for Nanaimo—Alberni (B.C.)

Won his last election, in 1997, with 50% of the vote.

Statements in the House

The Senate March 19th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, Alberta is having Senate elections this fall because they are sick of the Prime Minister's patronage appointments and they simply refuse to accept another Ross Fitzpatrick.

Day after day the Prime Minister has told the House he will ignore Alberta's wishes and will appoint his friends instead. Albertans are doing what the Charlottetown accord never would have allowed them to do, that is holding a province-wide election on senators.

Why does the Prime Minister think that his patronage appointments are more honourable than a democratic Alberta election?

Senator Selection Act March 19th, 1998

moved for leave to introduce Bill C-382, an act to allow the electors of a province to express an opinion on who should be summoned to the Senate to represent the province.

Mr. Speaker, as it presently stands, several provinces have Senate selection acts. Alberta is going to use its this fall to elect senators in waiting. However, there is no requirement for the Prime Minister to recognize that elected person.

The purpose of my bill is to ensure that the Prime Minister looks at the will of the people of the province and appoints to the Senate those people duly elected by a province that has a selection act in place.

(Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed)

The Senate March 18th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, it is rather ironic that whenever the Prime Minister is looking for votes in the west, he promises an elected Senate. Now that Albertans want to do that, he is saying no. Typical Liberal double standard.

Why does the Prime Minister think that a scandalous patronage appointment to the Senate is acceptable, but Alberta's democratic election is not?

The Senate March 18th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, you would think that after the embarrassment of Senator Andrew Thompson the Prime Minister would have learned his lesson about the Senate and would have stopped treating it as a Liberal country club. As it now stands, the only people in Canada who support the Senate are the Prime Minister and his friends Ross Fitzpatrick and Andrew Thompson.

However to fix this problem and ensure accountability in the Senate, Alberta will be holding Senate elections this fall. Will the Prime Minister appoint the winner to the next Alberta vacancy in the Senate?

The Senate March 17th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, the question is: Are Canadian Senate seats for sale?

The Senate March 17th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, we are not talking about policies when $45,000 has gone to line the Prime Minister's pockets. We are talking about integrity.

Ross Fitzpatrick is not just the Prime Minister's friend, he is the Prime Minister's former employer. As I said, he lined the Prime Minister's pockets with $45,000 in stock market gifts—

The Senate March 17th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, when the Liberals were in opposition they said they believed in integrity. They even wrote it in their red book. It has now been shown that this is absolute red book rubbish.

We can only imagine what the Prime Minister would have said in opposition if Brian Mulroney had appointed somebody like Fitzpatrick to the Senate.

My question is quite simple. Why are this government's ethical standards worse than those of Brian Mulroney's?

The Senate March 11th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister as recently as this week has said he is in favour of a reformed Senate. He has also said he is in favour of an elected Senate.

This year Albertans will be electing representatives to fill the Senate vacancies. Will the Prime Minister commit to this House and to Canadians today that he will appoint those duly elected Albertans to the Senate when a vacancy arises?

The Budget March 10th, 1998

Madam Speaker, I will be splitting my time with my colleague from Calgary—Nose Hill.

It gives me great pleasure to speak on this budget. As environment and Senate critic for the official opposition, I will be addressing both of those issues in turn.

One of the new spending initiatives outlined in the budget includes new spending for climate change. Before 1997 the Liberals spent over $100 million in direct funding each year to address climate change. The last budget provided an additional $20 million per year over the next three years. We are now up to $120 million. This budget provides another $50 million per year over the next three years, bringing the budget for climate change up to $170 million a year.

The government is muddling through on this issue. First, it fails to address the real agreement. It knew that this issue was coming down the pipe. It had been coming for many years. Yet this government failed during Kyoto. It had the opportunity to set up consultations beforehand to go to Kyoto as other countries did with a plan in mind. It failed to do that. The government failed to do its homework and show Canadians the various implications of the targets that it was about to sign.

The provinces have to be onside for any global agreement on climate change within Canada. What did our government do? It consulted with the provinces beforehand and then immediately dismissed the provinces and settled for a level that was 6% more stringent than the provinces had agreed to. It is the provinces that are going to have to implement this deal. What a nifty way to start out on a deal; alienate one of the partners you are trying to work with.

To show where we are, the government agreed to levels 6% lower than the 1990 levels for climate change. Picture where we are now. We are already 13% above the 1990 levels. Now the government says we are going to go 6% below that target in the next 10 or 12 years. Collectively 13% plus 6%, we have to change 19% over the next 10 or 12 years.

This is not fearmongering, but to give people an idea of what that 19% means, to reach those levels we could take all Canadian light cars and trucks off the road. I do not think we want to do that. Or we could remove 90% of the commercial trucks and air, marine and rail transportation. Or we could eliminate the heating in all of our homes, all of our commercial buildings and all natural gas distribution. Or we could shut down three-quarters of our fossil fuel power generation.

That is the level this government agreed to in Kyoto. The problem is how we are going to get there. There is no plan. This government has not put forward a plan. Look at the players. It is every Canadian. It is the provinces. It is industry. It is all of us combined, yet there is no plan.

Throw $170 million at it. That is the answer. That simply will not wash.

Instead of consulting Canadians on the implications of the deal and working together to find common ground to develop a strategy, this government has a half-baked idea of getting 26 Order of Canada members together so that they can express their feelings. That is going to get us a long way.

Where is the plan? That is the bottom line. I would hope that with the $170 million we will see a plan from this government over the next few months. Then both sides of this House can see where we are going with it, work with the provinces, work with all Canadians so that we can solve this problem.

While I have the opportunity I would also like to touch on endangered species. Bill C-65 on endangered species died on the order paper at the last election.

There were a number of concerns with that legislation. I have had meetings with various provincial environment ministers, and industry and environmental groups. I would hope that the minister is doing the same thing. The legislation was so flawed that even many Liberals on the other side of the House would not have been able to vote for it.

I hope those concerns will be addressed in a new bill dealing with endangered species that would come forward probably at the earliest next fall. We all want to work together to have good endangered species legislation which protects the species but also works well for Canadians.

One of the major flaws with Bill C-65 was the lack of private property rights. There has to be a mechanism to deal with private property rights. There has to be a compensation mechanism so that if people have something on their land they are not basically thrown off their land, they can be compensated and move forward.

There is another issue which comes very much to the fore. It has come from a number of groups I have met with. The legislation has to be at arm's length from politicians. We cannot get at it. The example I will use comes from the last election when the cod fishery was opened up on the east coast just before the election. It was an issue that was just there to catch votes. Any endangered species legislation has to be at arm's length so that we as politicians cannot do that. I am not sure what the mechanism is but there has to be a mechanism that allows a relationship so that any political party cannot get at it to play with or manipulate the system.

There also has to be clear federal-provincial guidelines. The old legislation basically went into provincial jurisdiction. This was a major problem with most of the provinces. With the citizen's right to sue, this was a concern where third parties had the ability to sue. There were major concerns with the legislation.

I would hope legislation that is possibly going to be introduced in the fall will address these issues and that it will be legislation we can all support.

Finally in my portfolio I deal with the Senate. Some members opposite may say that is the other house and we cannot deal with it. There is one way we can. Our very first vote, vote one of the estimates is the Senate. It is the Senate appropriation. It is the Senate's money. This year the Senate has asked for $44,691,000 which is $4 million more than it had last year, a 10% raise. I would challenge anyone to look at the budget and justify why other departments would require a 10% increase. I do not think they do. A few departments would have that. I am not on a witch hunt. I am simply looking for accountability.

Something happened for the first time in the history of Canada during the last Parliament. Through the public works committee this House passed a resolution to send a letter to the Senate that requested the Senate finance committee to come before the House of Commons to explain its expenses. The Senate refused to do that. We have another House that is unaccountable. That is the point we should be dealing with. We appropriate the Senate's funds so we should have the ability to scrutinize the Senate's budget.

I hope this government in its budget will not only just throw money at issues like climate change, I hope it will involve Canadians and the provinces, and that we have legislation we could all support at the end of the day.

The Senate March 9th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, what are the qualifications required to become a Canadian senator?

Well, here they are. First, lose an election or, better yet, lose two elections. Chances are you will be a shoo-in for a Senate appointment and who better to represent the people than the candidate who people rejected at the polls.

Another way is to have blatant political connections, for example, working for a Liberal MP, or better yet, having the Prime Minister work for you and offering the Prime Minister a good deal on your company shares or co-chairing the Prime Minister's leadership campaign or chairing an election campaign or arranging candidate nominations.

Do your duty for the Liberals and you will be rewarded. So, Joan Cook of Newfoundland and Ross Fitzpatrick of B.C., come on down. Your seat in patronage heaven is assured.