Crucial Fact

  • His favourite word was budget.

Last in Parliament April 1997, as Liberal MP for Winnipeg North Centre (Manitoba)

Lost his last election, in 1997, with 37% of the vote.

Statements in the House

The Budget March 3rd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, in rapid succession the member has been able to misinterpret about three different measures in the last budget.

First, starting with the capital base of corporations, we have a tax structure now which eliminates many of the loopholes whereby corporations managed to escape taxes on the income side. Second, we did not sign any tax treaty with any country which provides for a tax haven. It is just the opposite. We ensure

taxes are collected from Canadians and Canadian businesses doing business overseas. Third, measures involved with the family trust take place immediately. The other ones on the capital tax side take place in 1999.

The Budget March 3rd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, this government is making every effort to make sure the banking industry and the financial institutions pay their fair share.

A number of measures that were first introduced last year have been reinforced this year. The tax structure is not temporary but permanent. These institutions will be paying their fair share. We will insist upon it.

The Budget March 3rd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I am very surprised that the hon. member has so misinterpreted the budget. We are very proud of the fact that this budget has absolutely no increase in personal income tax rates.

We have taken several steps to increase the contribution from the corporate side to the basic revenue structure of this country. We have made changes in the large corporate income tax rate. We have made changes in taxation with the banks. For the first time, given also the increase in profits in the private sector, I think we will find there is a tremendous shift to the corporate side away from the average family.

Tribute To Carol Shields March 3rd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I would like to congratulate Canadian author Carol Shields for the award she has just won.

Last week the U.S. National Book Critics Circle awarded its 1994 fiction prize to this author for her most recent work entitled The Stone Diaries . The Stone Diaries is a warm, witty story of a fictitious Canadian woman's life. This work has attained both national and international recognition. It was awarded the Governor General's Award for English language fiction in 1993, the McNally Robinson Award for Manitoba Book of the Year and was short listed for Britain's prestigious Booker Prize.

Carol Shields was also chosen author of the year by the Canadian Booksellers' Association. A native of Winnipeg, Mrs. Shields also holds numerous literary prizes for her other works.

She will be presented with the award on March 23 in New York.

My colleagues join me in congratulating Carol Shields once again and in encouraging her in her literary pursuits.

Borrowing Authority Act, 1995-96 March 2nd, 1995

Madam Speaker, the member makes a lot of sense. If the member had included it in his original speech then my comments would not have come forward that way. I will say again that it is incumbent upon all of us to make sure the Canadian public understands that progress is being made on restructuring government.

We are as chagrined as the next person about the high cost each Canadian faces with the debt. When I stand in the House to ask permission to borrow $28.9 billion, it is not done with a lot of glee. This is a tremendous burden we are adding. We understand that.

Last year I believe we asked for $32.3 billion. It shows that we are making progress. Our demands on the international markets are becoming less each year. In this view, we are making real progress without causing widespread grief and harm.

I do not know if members have had a chance to look at the newspaper today, but looking at the public opinion polls, Canadians have been willing to accept a tough budget. We presented a tough budget and their reaction is very supportive.

The opposition parties should understand and appreciate the willingness of Canadians to participate in such an exercise, including the tax issues and so forth. I am very proud with the way the government is in sync with the Canadian population.

Borrowing Authority Act, 1995-96 March 2nd, 1995

Madam Speaker, the Minister of Finance tabled our budget for this year. There will not be another budget after the referendum. The message sent to the provinces is very clear. Many changes will occur, but we did inform provincial finance ministers, including the Quebec finance minister, of our strategy. We have an agreement with the provinces to postpone changes until next year-

-to provide an opportunity for governments across this country to change and to adjust. The federal government is losing 45,000 employees. It is with a great deal of sadness that we are making these changes and changing many of the programs. By definition, as we change programs it affects every single province equally. There is no doubt about that.

We expect that as the provinces go about their work they will have to make individual decisions as to the best way to improve the situations in their own province. It is not for me to guess whether it would include changes in programs, cutbacks or whatever. We will have to wait for provincial ministers of finance with their respective cabinets to make their own decisions and explain it to their individual populations.

Borrowing Authority Act, 1995-96 March 2nd, 1995

If anything the revenue projections are very prudent. We are very cautious about 1996. The American economy has been growing very rapidly with increased interest rates. We are concerned that our export markets may be dampened somewhat because of a slowdown in the American economy. I know American economists and observers are very nervous about whether interest rates have gone up too high in the United States.

Since so much of our revenue on the corporate side is based on our export industries, to say nothing of the jobs in markets such as the automobile industry and so on, if we do not make prudent projections on the revenue side we will be caught with increased costs in UI and reduced corporate profits and will find ourselves without the revenue.

Therefore, as I said in response to an earlier question, the last thing we want to do collectively as parliamentarians-in this respect the whole House should be in agreement-is set up a situation where we disappoint Canadians again. I would much rather be in a position of surprising them with good news than coming back again with a budget that has to be redrawn based on faulty optimistic projections.

The Department of Finance, through the minister's instructions, has been very cautious in the way it has drawn up the projections. We have insisted that the more optimistic projections in the private sector be scaled down. We have been very cautious in the way we have set out the amount of money available to us in two years.

Borrowing Authority Act, 1995-96 March 2nd, 1995

Madam Speaker, I thank the hon. member for his question and for his speech. I was listening carefully to him. I know he is concerned about these issues. He brings a real passion to seeing our debt reduced.

I assure him that every member on the government side is equally committed to balancing the budget and to making sure that future generations of Canadians are not saddled with the debt as we currently are.

The major difference between the government and the third party is the quickness related to actually delivering the savings needed to produce a balanced budget.

If the hon. member reviews his speech, I caution him not to deal with the total expenditures but to look at the amount of money spent on programs. From the beginning of the government we have been in the process of reducing it from $120 billion to $108 billion. That is significant progress.

We would like to be optimistic and say that the economy will continue to perform as it did last year at 4.5 per cent growth, but we know that in the past many governments have disappointed Canadians by making high growth and revenue projections and in the end have come back to Canadians with increased debt. We refuse to do that.

We also know that politicians are politicians. If we set objectives far down the line and say that in five or six years we will have a balanced budget, and a crisis comes up such as the Mexican peso crisis in January, people say not to worry about it too much because we can adjust further down the line. We can hold their collective feet to the fire and say our objective this year is x billions of dollars in debt and we are going to reach it. We are not going to compensate in two or three years; we are going to look after it right now.

The Minister of Finance and the Prime Minister have been very effective in bringing a discipline to the government. Through the actions we are taking, we are setting an example for many other governments across the country. At the turn of the century we will see ourselves in a very fine position, one we can all be proud of.

Borrowing Authority Act, 1995-96 March 2nd, 1995

Madam Speaker, I welcome this opportunity to speak on second reading of Bill C-73, the borrowing authority bill.

Before I speak directly to the provisions of the bill, I would like to put this legislation in its proper context. The amount of borrowing authority requested in the bill is directly connected to the financial requirements set out in the budget. The information required to deal with the financial aspects of the bill is set out in the budget.

It is very important that this bill be passed as quickly as possible. If borrowing authority is not in place early in the new fiscal year, there will be severe constraints placed on the government's financing program. All remaining borrowing authority granted by the Borrowing Authority Act, 1994-95, will be cancelled at the end of this fiscal year except for a $3 billion non-lapsing amount.

Once this amount is depleted, the government would be limited to using section 47 of the Financial Administration Act which restricts borrowing to short-term funds.

In such a situation, no bonds could be issued except to fund maturing issues, of which there are two in the first quarter of 1995-96. Any delay in the passage of this important bill beyond the end of the current fiscal year, therefore, could be costly to the government and to Canadian taxpayers, and would expose the government to the additional interest rate risk implied by increased short-term funding.

Given the government's large financing program, delaying bond financing will also be potentially disruptive of the capital markets which could result in higher debt servicing charges. Therefore, it is critical that borrowing authority be secured as soon as possible.

The budget has been a topic of much discussion both in this House and elsewhere this week. And well it should be. As has been pointed out by my colleague the Minister of Finance, the budget he presented last Monday is an "historic response" to an "historic challenge".

The challenge is brought very much to our attention as we debate this bill. This country's economic future is put at risk by the $500 billion debt we have accumulated-a $500 billion debt that leaves us all too vulnerable to the harsh impact of interest rates.

And yes, we recognize that this legislation seeks to borrow even more money, adding to that debt. But in asking hon. members to support this legislation, I draw their attention to the fundamental reform of government spending set out in the budget and the commitment of this government to meet its deficit targets.

The ultimate goal of this government is a balanced budget. There should be no doubt that we will achieve it.

But we are not going to achieve this goal through the magic of long range projections as was attempted in the past. Nor will we achieve our goals by projecting overly optimistic increases in economic growth and cheerful interest rate forecasts.

Our approach has paid off in success in not just meeting the targets for 1994-95 but in fact doing better. Last year in our first budget we projected a deficit of $39.7 billion. We now estimate that the deficit will come in at about $37.9 billion, some $1.8 billion under target.

The underlying deficit, that is without the one time charges incurred in restructuring government, is $4.4 billion below target. Revenues of $1.2 billion are above the conservative estimates in program spending, a full $3 billion under our projections.

These positive effects on the deficit were only partly offset by the $1 billion in higher than expected interest rates, so the $2.4 billion contingency fund did not have to be touched.

I would like to go directly to some of the aspects of this legislation because in my short time I want to make sure that my colleagues understand exactly what the nature of this borrowing bill is.

With the measures we are taking in the budget announced on Monday there is no question we will achieve the target of $32.7 billion in the upcoming fiscal year and $24.3 billion or 3 per cent of GDP in 1996-97.

We are backing up our very prudent economic assumptions with a substantial contingency reserve, which next year will be $2.5 billion and the following year will be $3 billion. Looking ahead, our contingency reserve will do more than just protect our target. If it is not needed it will not be spent. It will go toward reducing the deficit even further.

This underscores one of the basic strengths of our planning assumptions. If interest rates and growth do better than our forecast-and remember that we have taken a very conservative forecast-and if we simply compare it to the private sector average, in 1996-97 the deficit could drop below $19 billion. That is $5.5 billion less than what was projected in the budget.

By that time our financial requirements, the new money we borrow from markets, will fall to $13.7 billion, a drop of more than $11 billion from the amount asked for in Bill C-73. That is substantial progress of which every Canadian should be proud. It will be just 1.7 per cent of GDP, down from 3.5 per cent of GDP in 1994-95 and a full 5 per cent in 1992-93. Based on the national budgets for 1996-97, Canada is projected to do better than the United States, Germany, Japan and every other major industrial nation.

The details of Bill C-73 contain three basic elements: authority to cover financial requirements for 1995-96, exchange fund account profits, and a non-lapsing amount. In total we are requesting authority to borrow $28.9 billion for the 1995-96 fiscal year.

First, there is a provision for $24.9 billion of authority to cover anticipated borrowing requirements to meet the net financial requirements set out in the budget.

Second, there is a provision to cover $1 billion of exchange fund account earnings, which gives rise to additional Canadian dollar borrowing requirements. These earnings, although reported as budgetary revenues, are retained in the exchange fund account. They are not available to finance ongoing operations of the government.

Third, there is the usual $3 billion non-lapsing amount, the same amount requested in borrowing authority in the past seven years. The non-lapsing amount can either be used during the course of the year to manage contingencies such as unexpected foreign exchange requirements or it can be carried forward to the next fiscal year.

There are some minor technical provisions in the bill that more clearly link fiscal year borrowing authority with fiscal year borrowing requirements. One provision provides that in 1995-96 the borrowing authority may only be used after the new fiscal year begins. Another provision stipulates that for the purpose of calculating borrowing authority usage the effective date is April 1.

Until the bill is passed the government may continue to use the $3 billion non-lapsing amount provided for in last year's Borrowing Authority Act. Any portion of the non-lapsing amount that is used will be deducted from the basic amount of borrowing authority being sought today. This prevents the non-lapsing amount from effectively adding to the borrowing authority next year. Also the bill will cancel all borrowing authority remaining from fiscal 1994-95 once it is passed.

As background information I would like to review the government's debt operation for the current fiscal year up to the end of January. So far this fiscal year in the domestic debt program the government has issued about $21.4 billion in marketable bonds, $1.5 billion in Canada savings bonds, and $1.4 billion in real return bonds. There are also net redemptions of $7.8 billion of treasury bills. This provides a total of $16.5 billion in net new market debt.

I also report to the House on last fall's Canada savings bond campaign. The government introduced two innovations aimed at revitalizing the Canada savings bond program. First, a new three-year price feature was introduced, aimed at making CSBs more attractive to retail investors. Second, the government expanded the sales window making CSBs available over a longer period of time. They were priced competitively with other products in the market, cost effective relative to other

sources of financing and produced sales of $7.5 billion or a 40 per cent increase over 1993. After accounting for redemptions during the year, the net increase in outstanding Canada savings bonds was $1.5 billion, as I indicated earlier.

Regarding foreign currency debt, outstanding Canada bills increased by U.S. $2.2 billion to $6.3 billion at the end of January. These are short term U.S. dollar denominated bills issued from time to time in the U.S. market to fund Canada's foreign exchange reserve.

In July 1994 the government launched a $2 billion five-year Euro bond issue. The issue was used to increase reserves and diversify the sources of U.S. dollar funding of Canada's exchange reserve.

In summary, the bill is straightforward and contains no unusual provisions. All the information needed to deal with it is before the House in the budget, the main estimates and related documents.

I therefore urge the House to proceed with this legislation as quickly as possible so that new borrowing authority will be in place at the beginning of the new fiscal year and the government's regular borrowing program can proceed as the fiscal year begins.

Borrowing authority is a normal part of the operations of government. I urge all members of the House to support the bill.

The Budget February 28th, 1995

Madam Speaker, last year we announced our infrastructure program. That program enabled us to create many jobs and implement many projects.

This budget will allow us to pursue our job creation efforts right across the country. I am convinced that our strategy will be successful.