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  • His favourite word was tobacco.

Last in Parliament April 1997, as Liberal MP for Cape Breton—East Richmond (Nova Scotia)

Lost his last election, in 1997, with 38% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Borrowing Authority Act, 1995-96 March 2nd, 1995

I did not interrupt the hon. member when he was speaking. Maybe he can give me the same courtesy.

Let him remember and understand history. Yes, regional economic development programs have not been a raving success. To suggest there have been no successes is factually incorrect. It is factually incorrect to suggest that they have not benefited certain regions. The hon. member should travel the country extensively before he states false and misleading information of that nature.

The hon. member makes the statement that somehow we changed the programming of the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency because of the interventions of the Reform Party. The people who changed that program from grants to loans were the business community and business representatives in Atlantic Canada. When I travel Atlantic Canada, which is extensively, I meet with them time and time again. I have listened to what they have said and listened to what the Atlantic Liberal caucus has said and that is the reason we moved from grants to repayable loans.

Finally, the hon. member made reference to a dingy on the coin.

Let me say to the hon. member that yes, the students at the University College of Cape Breton have referred to this wall that they have constructed under an infrastructure program as the "Dingwall".

I want to tell my hon. friend that just the other day I drove by the "Dingwall" in a car with white walls. I want to assure the hon. member that the "Dingwall" is a hell of a lot more effective and durable than the white walls on that car. I think the hon. member knows who I am referring to when I talk about the white walls.

Borrowing Authority Act, 1995-96 March 2nd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, such an easy question from an easy representative. The hon. member's assertion is factually incorrect.

Borrowing Authority Act, 1995-96 March 2nd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I thank the hon. member for the question. It is a very legitimate and important question that one would ask of a minister.

My colleague is quite right in making representations to me on the issue. However, I say to him as I say to all members, difficult decisions had to be made by the government relating to the reduction of expenditures.

In the riding adjacent to mine that members refer to quite often as being my district but really is not, we closed the office as well. I do not take any joy as the minister responsible for Canada Mortgage and Housing for having to shut down offices.

Administratively it is important that Canada Mortgage and Housing make those kinds of decisions in order that we can contribute to bringing down the deficit of the Government of Canada. I have had numerous meetings with my colleague the Minister of Finance who did not cherish the fact that we had to reduce those offices.

I want to tell my colleague opposite that his constituents, which he ably represents, will still have the services of representatives from Canada Mortgage and Housing from neighbouring communities.

Notwithstanding reductions at Canada Mortgage and Housing, I received no less than seven or eight interventions from his party. I thought he was to congratulate me on the rent geared to income which was rumoured to go from 25 per cent to 30 per cent. The Minister of Finance and the cabinet have maintained it at 25 per cent.

On the one hand it was difficult to close the office in his constituency. He will still receive quality service from neighbouring communities. On the other hand we have been fair. We have not increased the rent geared to income for those citizens who are occupying our social housing units across the country.

Borrowing Authority Act, 1995-96 March 2nd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, when I began earlier today, I started off with Madam Speaker, was interrupted by Mr. Speaker, and now I have a different Mr. Speaker in the Chair. I would like to be certain that this Mr. Speaker will remain in the Chair for the duration of my short intervention in this debate.

As I said earlier to my colleagues in the House, the Department of Public Works and Government Services has had to sustain some significant reductions. I note my colleague from the Reform Party. No doubt he will have numerous questions for me when we go before committee. I might add he usually asks very good questions.

I want to share with him and other members of the House that we will be commercializing the Canada Communication Group, an aspect of public works and government services. We will be doing away with the stock item supply. We will be going to direct deposit across the board to save the taxpayers significant amounts of money. Cheque production sites will be consolidated in order to save costs to the taxpayer, contributing to the savings we are putting toward the deficit over a three year period of $353 million.

In addition, public works and government services, Treasury Board and all agencies of the Government of Canada have been, presently are and will continue to look at ways in which to make additional savings in terms of the reduction in office space which houses a variety of government departments.

Program review was conducted by my colleague the Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs and had a number of aspects associated with it. One was a vertical examination of all expenditures in each of the departments. As a consequence of that examination, there will be less need for additional space.

I want to be very careful and very prudent. I welcome suggestions from members across the way in terms of how we can do public-private partnering in this regard and how we can have additional savings as it relates to the space requirements we need as a national government across the country.

These savings, as I indicated earlier, will total $353 million and will dislocate 5,263 employees over a three year period. It is very difficult to try to sugarcoat tough decisions, but I want to be clear. Although there will be some dislocation of jobs, many of those jobs will reappear in the private sector. We ought not to downplay the significance the private sector can play in terms of handling some of these services and activities which, prior to the budget, were being conducted by government departments.

The Department of Public Works and Government Services is a common service department. We act in relation to the requests made to us by other departments and agencies of the Government of Canada. Where the opportunity exists, our objective and goal is always to try to get value for the expenditures within our department. We will be vigilant in reaching that goal in the coming months and years. Again I invite the co-operation and suggestions of members opposite to make certain we abide by that objective of value for our money. Where the opportunity exists I hope they will provide us with good, meaningful suggestions.

Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation is another agency which comes under my responsibility. It has a historic, national and international reputation in the housing sector. Cabinet and the Minister of Finance, in view of the fiscal capacity of the Government of Canada, are giving savings to reduce the deficit in excess of $300 million.

We will be closing over 20 offices across the country. We will be cutting back on our research efforts as a national housing institution. We will be doing away with the scholarship program which has been part and parcel of Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation for quite some time. If anyone were to suggest that those are not tough, difficult measures, I would think they were being less than candid with themselves and with the House.

I do want to say that the Minister of Finance has given us a balance. On the one hand we still have 600,000 units. It is an expenditure by the government of over $2 billion annually, housing one million Canadians who need the assistance of the state as they try to provide dignity and opportunities for their families and their communities. That expenditure is significant.

It is hoped that over an additional three year period we will be able to have additional savings and will be able to do some things in other sectors. However, I do not want to give a false impression to the House because it would be misleading and very unfair to suggest otherwise.

With the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency, the government over a three year period will be reducing its contributions to that agency. I would like to take a moment to explain the mandate of ACOA. The mandate of the Atlantic Canada Op-

portunities Agency is to effectuate where possible economic activities in the Atlantic region.

Those of us who come from the Atlantic region, such as my colleague the hon. member for Dartmouth, will attest to the fact that economic growth in many of our communities is not what we want it to be. We are continually trying to find ways to foster economic growth. We have moved away from a previous set of targets in terms of providing grants to small and medium sized businesses. We have done away with that. We have moved to a system of repayable loans which provides more accountability for all.

There is still a lot of partnering. As an agency of the crown we can partner with the provinces, universities and non-profit organizations. This is done not for the sake of having announcements but for the sake of trying to get communities, the intellectual side, the business side and the non-profit side together, forging a coalition to try to meet the challenge of creating economic activity in the poorer regions.

Much has been said about regional economic development in the past. I am sure much more will be said by those who oppose that forum. Let it be understood that as the minister responsible for one small agency, ACOA, I believe as the red book and the 1994 and 1995 budgets have identified, that regional economies are the backbone of the nation.

There is no question there are differences between the economy of Atlantic Canada and that of Quebec. There are differences between western Canada and the Atlantic region. There are differences between Ontario and the west, be it the prairies or British Columbia. They are different. We must acknowledge that factual thing: a small population base, a widely dispersed people over a large geographical mass. It is our task not to put the blame on those that have come before us and tried to seize the moment and the opportunity by creating through partnerships something that will provide some hope and some dignity to individuals in that region of the country.

All agencies of government were asked to provide moneys to cut the deficit. Fifty person years will be reduced at the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency, 15 person years at Enterprise Cape Breton. All aspects are being reviewed.

As members opposite find opportunities to either ask questions or put before me as the minister responsible, as my colleagues in the Atlantic Region do, ways in which we can improve, to cut things and to add to things, I would be happy to hear from them.

I want to make something very clear to those members who sit in the House. I make no apology to any member, any political party, and any representative of the press for standing up for a region which has historically sustained a lot of economic difficulty. As I say to my friends and as I shared with caucus colleagues, we in Atlantic Canada do not want handouts. We want a hand up. Regardless of where they live, Canadians are entitled to that kind of opportunity from the national government.

In the time that I have remaining, I want to briefly touch on the subject of the Royal Canadian Mint. Colleague opposite knows that I have umpteen different agencies for which I am responsible so I am just hitting the highlights of some of them.

With regard to the Royal Canadian Mint, I want to clarify a rumour. It was circulating in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia that the $2 coin we will be issuing will have the picture of the hon. member for Dartmouth on the coin. I want to make it perfectly clear it was a difficult decision I had to make personally, but given what I had to work with I think everyone can understand why I reached the decision I did.

Let the House be aware that the new $2 coin will save taxpayers over a 20-year period a quarter of a billion dollars.

We have gone one step further. We are looking at all of the coins and their composition. We are going to change the composition of those coins in order to reduce their cost, thereby increasing the revenues which will total almost an additional $12 million per year for the 20-year duration of an average coin. That is new revenue for the national government. It is new revenue for the purposes of writing down the deficit of the Government of Canada.

I want Canadians to know that these measures have been taken because we listened to them. I am the minister responsible for public works, government services, and a host of other agencies. I have gone before the standing committee for a record number of times for any minister; three times. I have had good questions from opposition members. I have had good suggestions from opposition members. Equally so, I have had very good quality questions and suggestions from government members. I want to thank them for their help and assistance.

I throw out a challenge to all members of the House. If we are sincere, which I take as a given, of reducing the deficit of the government in the years ahead, they should come forward with solutions. Yes, criticize too because that is part and parcel of the political process. As I have told my exempt staff as well as all of my deputy ministers, it is fine to identify problems but it is more important to identify solutions to those problems.

I know that my time has come to an end but I would be happy to attempt to answer any questions my colleagues may wish to raise at this time.

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Borrowing Authority Act, 1995-96 March 2nd, 1995

Madam Speaker, it is a real opportunity for me to participate in this debate and to share with my colleagues on all sides of the House the activities that my departments and agencies will be doing over the next 12 months and for the next three years.

I want to take this opportunity to congratulate my colleague, the Minister of Finance, who tabled the budget here on Monday of this week, which addressed a number of fundamental problems that the Canadian government has been faced with not only for the last year and half but for the last nine or ten years.

I want to congratulate my colleague, the Minister of Finance, on facts which are indisputable. For instance, over the last year there have been 433,000 jobs created in this country. The unemployment rate has fallen by 1.7 per cent. I think all members will recognize that although that is encouraging it is certainly not enough. However, it is a positive indicator.

Exports are at a record breaking level, something Canadians ought to be proud of. As we export our products it means additional investment for Canadians and thereby jobs for Canadians whether they are in New Brunswick or in other parts of Canada, including Ontario and western Canada.

Inflation is the lowest in three decades, another factor that ought to be taken into consideration. Canada had the best economic growth of any major industrialized country in 1994. Canada is set to have the best job creation record and the best economic growth record of the G-7 countries in 1995.

If that is not an indication of support for the Minister of Finance and the plan that he put before Parliament in 1994, as he did here on Monday evening, I do not know what further affirmation one could get to say that we have the full confidence in the Minister of Finance and the plans he has laid before the people of Canada.

I think many members would recognize that I do not like to be partisan in debate, and therefore I will select a quote from a newspaper today which I believe stated that 78 per cent of the people in Ontario, the largest province in this country, supported unequivocally the budget of the Minister of Finance.

This budget, as I have said both privately and publicly, is a tough budget because it affects the lives of a lot of Canadians. In my own departments and agencies there are some substantial reductions. I offer to the House, as I believe I did on a previous occasion, that there would be substantial cutbacks in Public Works and Government Services Canada. Over a three-year period my department will contribute toward reducing the deficit in that particular department in excess of $350 million. There are 5,263 employees who will be dislocated as a result of this federal budget. Those who have the audacity to suggest that kind of measure is not a tough measure are missing the point.

I realize I only have a few moments but I want to share with the House a couple of important features of the budget, particularly in my Department of Public Works and Government Services. Canada Mortgage and Housing is reducing its expenditures in order to contribute toward the deficit. The Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency over a three-year period will reduce its expenditures by $173 million with person years being displaced.

The Royal Canadian Mint will try to contribute to increasing the revenues for the Government of Canada by the introduction of the $2 coin and by reducing the composition of the different coins, thereby providing additional revenues.

I know members wish-

The Budget February 28th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, again I want to thank the hon. member for his question.

He should be aware that regional development agencies have been cut in excess of $550 million by the Minister of Finance. All ministers of the crown and every agency of the Government of Canada has been looked at under program review. Each and every one has had to sustain a reduction.

ACOA amounts to $173.5 million over a three year period. In that category 50 full time positions will have to be removed from the books.

The Budget February 28th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I thank the hon. member for his question.

He should be aware that the cutbacks to ACOA and Enterprise Cape Breton come to a total of $173.5 million over a three-year period. The reductions with regard to Enterprise Cape Breton are in excess of $2.5 million, with a 24 per cent reduction in personnel in that particular office.

Social Housing February 27th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, in terms of the premise of the hon. member's question, I disagree totally. Perhaps he could be a little more patient. His answer will come later this afternoon.

Social Housing February 27th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I suggest that the hon. member be somewhat patient. The Minister of Finance has the representations and has had them for quite some time.

Starred Questions February 24th, 1995

The information requested is not available in an existing document and it cannot be produced within the department's routine operations. The manual and electronic data banks of the four distinct organizations which existed prior to the merger forming the department of Public Works and Government Services have not as of yet been integrated or updated. To compile information which represents the contracting activities of the entire department, an in-depth search would have to be conducted throughout the many sectors of the department and their data banks.

The department does not currently have the capability within its routine operations to produce accurate statistical information for all of its contracting activities within electoral boundaries.

The department is presently considering the various options available to it to update and integrate its various information holdings.

As an alternative approach to providing contracting information to members of Parliament, efforts have been made to facilitate access to the open bidding service, OBS. The OBS is a user-pay electronic bulletin board which publicly advertises contract opportunities, notices of planned sole-source contracts, as well as notices of contract awards. Through the OBS, contract histories are also available, allowing subscribers to find information on OBS contracts that have been awarded in the past, to whom, and for what amount.

In addition, PWGSC's publication, "Government Business Opportunities", GBO, is published three times a week and provides similar information on federal government procurement. The GBO is available to members of Parliament free of charge through the federal government depository services program.

Please note that this type of information for the whole province of Quebec is available in the answer to question Q-93 tabled this day.