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  • His favourite word was management.

Last in Parliament October 2000, as Bloc MP for Bonaventure—Gaspé—Îles-De-La-Madeleine—Pabok (Québec)

Won his last election, in 1997, with 41% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Supply June 1st, 1998

Mr. Speaker, I will give a brief historic overview. Just from the name of my riding, which includes the four RCMs in the Gaspé and the Magdalen Islands, it is obvious that we represent a large area.

My region is a resource region where seasonal jobs represent more than one third of all jobs.

For the benefit of the minister opposite, there are approximately 12,000 seasonal jobs in the Gaspé and the Magdalen Islands, mainly in farming, fishing and forestry and the processing of these products, as well as the tourist industry, including lodging and food services. That pretty much describes our seasonal jobs.

The proportion of seasonal work in my region is three times that in the rest of Quebec. This means that, in the Gaspé and the Magdalen Islands, there are three times as many people on EI, 10.7%, compared to the Quebec average of 3.9%.

With a labour market characterized by seasonal variations in employment, my riding was hard hit by the EI reform.

Statistics from Human Resources Development Canada show that, since 1993, the number of EI recipients in my riding has dropped by 4,000, or one-third, but the number of jobs did not increase in the same proportion.

According to the HRDC figures, changes to the employment insurance plan have reduced by $30 million the funds generated in my region.

In addition to seasonal jobs, there is a high proportion of part time jobs in the Gaspé Peninsula and the Magdalen Islands. In fact, 70% of local jobs are either part time or seasonal, compared with 46% in Quebec.

But regions like the Gaspé and the Magdalen Islands are particularly hard hit by the tightening of eligibility criteria.

One of the disastrous consequences of decisions made by the government opposite was that, as figures from the 1991 census showed, the average household income in the Gaspé was $34,800, compared with $40,800 in Quebec as a whole, a $6,000 difference.

Between 1987 and 1995, we experienced a 15% drop in jobs in the Gaspé. These jobs have not been replaced, as shown by the growth in unemployment, which went from 16.4% in 1987, to 20.2% in 1995, to 25.7% in 1997.

Another disastrous consequence of the blind decisions made by the people over there is that the people are leaving. In the past 10 years, 7,300 people have left our region, a 7% drop in our population.

With figures like these, we in the Gaspé and the Magdalen Islands have the dubious distinction of being possibly the poorest region in Canada. It is not something we want to be known for.

The employment insurance program is a real catastrophe for regions where unemployment is rampant. Only one in two jobless people is eligible.

Would you buy life insurance if you had only a 50% chance of any death benefits being paid? There is only one thing that is certain, Mr. Speaker, and that is that we are all going to die one day, but if we count on federal government coverage, our widows will not live very high off the hog.

The employment insurance program is also catastrophic for regions with flourishing employment and a low unemployment rate. Employers and workers thought they were paying into insurance that would provide a measure of protection in case of job loss, but that is not the case. The workers in those regions are directly funding federal programs they never asked for, and on which they were not consulted in the least. All the foregoing was just a bit of an overview of the situation in my riding.

My colleagues have spoken before me, but I would like to touch on the various measures presented by the Bloc Quebecois as private members' bills. It would be nice if some of the hon. members over there, even those in government, would adopt them as their own and help them through. I am talking about relaxing the eligibility criteria.

The minister has told us about a lady from Sydney who, much to her credit, worked 14 hours a week for 30 weeks. But the minister is misleading the House in saying that the lady was not eligible for employment insurance before. This lady needs 910 hours. The minister does not know his multiplication tables, then, because in his example 14 times 30 is 420. Strike 1 for the minister.

He has also told us just now that there is a transitional job creation fund. I dare him to rise in this House and tell us how much money is left in that fund. Not money that has already been committed, but money that is left to be spent. He said that the program will expire in 1999. How many projects can be submitted? Is there any money left, yes or no?

Strike three: the same minister—and I hope he or his parliamentary secretary will have the courage to rise—told us that, as a second active job creation measure, he transferred $2.7 billion through administrative agreements with the province of Quebec. That is absolutely false on two points. The amount of $2.7 billion is not only for Quebec, but for Canada as a whole. The worst part is that they are thumbing their noses at us in this House.

Unless I am mistaken, in a memo that I have here regarding this $2.7 billion, the agreements provide that this money cannot be spent until 2002. The minister has knowingly misled the House on three points, which I have just mentioned.

If Minister Saint Peter ever has to face Our Lord Jesus Christ, well I just told you that the cock crew three times. He misled the House three times, and that has to be rectified.

If nobody rises on the other side in a few moments, I will take it as meaning that the members opposite are perfectly capable of saying anything they want but do not have the courage to right their wrongs. This is totally unacceptable.

I would like that the Prime Minister was there at the time, on the opposition side. I do not know if my colleagues read this letter in its entirety earlier, but it speaks volumes.

The letter, signed by the member for Shawinigan, is dated February 17, 1993 and was sent to a group called Action-Chômage from Kamouraska.

Supply June 1st, 1998

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I believe the Minister of Human Resources misled the House when he spoke of the transitional jobs fund.

I would like all Canadians to take note that the fund—-

Supply June 1st, 1998

Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Human Resources Development should try to put himself in the shoes of ordinary Canadians. He gave us the example of a woman from Sydney.

I will try to be brief. In a region such as the Gaspé Peninsula, which is severely affected by TAGS, where active measures are sorely lacking, where nothing is being done and which is being deprived of $50 million because of reduced benefits and reduced eligibility, how does the minister think that people can find new jobs? Why can he not consider restoring some fairness in the system?

I would like to quote from his leader. I will be very brief. The quote is from a letter sent in 1993 to a group called Action-Chômage, in which the current Prime Minister described the measures put forward by the Conservatives as being very coercive.

“While they seem to show compassion on the eve of the election, they are forgetting the names of the victims”.

Groundfish Industry May 28th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, I would like confirmation from the minister as to whether he has also consulted the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans to ensure that the assistance will properly target the right clientele.

Moreover, I would like him to tell us whether he has met with his provincial counterparts, because according to the information available to me, he has not yet done so.

Groundfish Industry May 28th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Human Resources Development.

There are rumours circulating in my region that the minister will be announcing his new plan for assisting those involved in the groundfish fisheries on June 8.

Can the minister tell us whether this information is accurate and whether there will soon be some reassurance for people about the future groundfish strategy?

Coastal Fisheries Protection Act April 30th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, I take this opportunity to give my regards to the hon. member for Egmont, who was the chair of the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans in the last parliament. I understand the hon. member is familiar with the issue, but I would like to see if he will be more progressive than his party, he who had such progressive ideas regarding Bill C-27.

First of all, I would like to ask him a question. The Bloc Quebecois has indicated its intention to support the principle of Bill C-27, adding however that we have much to do this spring, and this week in particular, besides debating Bill C-27.

Regarding the rationale for this bill, the government claims it will enable it to implement the agreement, which is not true since it can do so without our consent.

If it takes the time to ask for our consent, then we should be able to take the time to go into the details. I say details because the UNFA is not wishful thinking nor a collection of generalities.

I would like to know if the hon. member plans to put pressure on his minister to ensure, in return for the favour we are doing him this week by discussing Bill C-27, that the Atlantic groundfish strategy is renewed as soon as possible and that work on the crab management plan for zone 12 is progressing so that it can be tabled by the end of the week. Finally, I would like the hon. member to tell me if his government has started giving some thought to what type of fisheries and vision of the future it will put forward.

Does he at least plan to put pressure on his minister to hold consultations in this respect? The hon. member opposite, who is a good man, listed and described the various penalties but I am still waiting for him to talk about policy thrusts. For example, what fishing gear and vessel should be favoured in view of the size of the fish that will be allowed to be caught in the future, since there is a decline in fish stocks, as we know.

I would like to hear the hon. member for Egmont on this point.

Coastal Fisheries Protection Act April 30th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, you see how practical it is that my riding's name lists four RCMs; now, everyone in Canada will know the names of the RCMs around the Gaspé peninsula.

I too would like to congratulate the member for Burin—St. George's. Clearly this is someone who really looks out for the people in his riding and who has a deep interest in the fisheries sector.

I worked with him on the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans and I must say that I was impressed with the way we worked together, with the fact that we came up with points on which nobody toed the party line. I am also impressed that a group of Conservative, New Democratic and Liberal parliamentarians from Newfoundland has come to get its views across to the various caucuses here in the House. I know that my colleague has met with them.

Bill C-27 contains certain management measures. Having worked with me on the standing committee, the member for Burin—St. George's knows that there are serious problems. We agreed that the main one is the poor management by the federal government, irrespective of the parties.

The member for Egmont, on Prince Edward Island, referred just now to John Crosbie, who said that decisions were difficult because the provinces and unions put pressure on them to maintain the TAC, the total allowable catch.

The question I want to ask my colleague is as follows. Does he still mean to recommend, even to the people from his province, that the department's management methods and the methods for setting the TAC be reviewed and does he still mean to encourage the provinces to take part in this exercise?

In in the standing committee's report, we urged the government to have this review done by an independent committee. If we want to restore confidence, that is where we should start. Once again, Bill C-27 is a red herring, but if an independent committee were struck, at least we would be able to get down to some serious talk.

Coastal Fisheries Protection Act April 30th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, as I was saying, I find it refreshing to see the new member for Acadie—Bathurst taking to heart the interests of the people in his riding. He is fighting mad, if I can put it that way. He wants to get people the tools they need.

I would him to have the opportunity to continue his comments, because I have heard there are other problems in his province arising from Ottawa's slowness and poor management of the fisheries. So, I would like him to continue to inform the House about this.

Coastal Fisheries Protection Act April 30th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, I will be brief.

Coastal Fisheries Protection Act April 30th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, it is refreshing to be in this House today and hear the member for Acadie—Bathurst, 1997 version, defending the people in his riding this way. I say the 1997 version of the member for Acadie—Bathurst, because, previous to the 1997 version, we had the father of the employment insurance reform, Doug Young, the man responsible for the economic mess people are living in today.

At the time, however, I was very hopeful. I thought that if the Liberal government had chosen this person from Acadie—Bathurst, which was experiencing much the same problems as we were in Gaspé, and if this person agreed to serve as minister, perhaps he had a few cards up his sleeve. Today, we have understood—he had no trump cards. I think that is what the people of Acadie—Bathurst understood and they did some housecleaning.

To get back to the remarks by my colleague from the NDP, I would like him to tell us about what the situation looks like for all the crab fishers, currently waiting, their vessels docked and their traps all piled up. They are ready to go.

What about the plant workers, whose qualification for employment insurance, when they manage to accumulate 14 weeks—it takes a while to—