Crucial Fact

  • His favourite word was system.

Last in Parliament April 1997, as Liberal MP for Souris—Moose Mountain (Saskatchewan)

Lost his last election, in 1997, with 27% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Western Grain Transportation Act February 13th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, with regard to end user certificates, the hon. members knows that we have them. I understand what he is saying. Certainly we want to be assured that we are playing on a level playing field with our counterparts whether they be the United States or any other country.

I share the concern that when we enter into an agreement we expect that those people are going to live up to and honour the agreement. I have some problems when they use the export enhancement program improperly. It is a program that will have to be reviewed and they will have to be accountable in the world they trade in.

They are going to be challenged by all of us, Canadians and all other countries, to play on a level and fair trading field. You will see that they will be forced to reduce their export enhancement program. That is something all of us share. We want to deal with all our counterparts throughout the world in a fair way.

Western Grain Transportation Act February 13th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, concerning a number of the observations made by the member opposite with regard to the minister of agriculture, I think his dealings on many issues, whether it be on sugar, barley or durum, have been very concise and accurate. They reflected the needs and wishes of the agriculture community of Saskatchewan and of Canada.

With regard to the problem that may be confronting us at the end of this month concerning rail companies and whether they will continue to provide service through their unions, I along with the member opposite have real concern about what will happen.

However, I can assure the member that the Minister of Transport and the minister of agriculture will deal with those situations in a very proper, efficient and significant manner to look after the farmers of Saskatchewan, Alberta and any other province. I appreciate the member's concern, but I think he will see that they will deal with those matters very quickly as they have with all other matters.

Western Grain Transportation Act February 13th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the opportunity to speak on this very important issue, the amendment to the Western Grain Transportation Act tabled by the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-food, dealing with Bill C-66 as put forward on December 15, 1994.

Bill C-66 is a short term response to problems that have arisen in our grain handling and transportation. It will help ensure speedier delivery of Canadian grain to our customers around the world. Bill C-66 is not intended to be a substitute or a reform to the system.

I am convinced the short term amendments presented to the House today will benefit all those concerned. These changes will see an end to the system of backhauling through the U.S. and allow grain to qualify for WGTA subsidies. The amendments will implement a system of demurrage and storage charges on rail cars that are misused by shippers for storage purposes. They will end the WGTA subsidy on grain shipments to Mexico and ensure continued access to important markets.

These corrective measures were initiated by a group assembled by the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food on May 16, 1994. We all realize the WGTA has some weaknesses that need to be reformed that can no longer wait to be dealt with.

As the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food said, maintaining the status quo is an option that makes less and less sense. Longer term reform is essential and it is essential to achieve a compliance with the new World Trade Agreement. It is essential because the current subsidy distorts markets, encourages producers to ship grain to markets rather than processing it. It is essential to respond to the country's fiscal responsibilities with fewer government dollars. It is essential to promote the economic growth and diversification across the prairies.

I would like to discuss these long term reforms today. As members know the federal transport minister is now in the process of concluding extensive consultations on a package of grain transportation efficiencies. At the same time, the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food is concluding productive consultations with major key players of the sector on the future method of paying the WGTA benefit.

Throughout these consultations leaders of farm groups and industry have been given the opportunity to make significant contributions by going over specific questions on how best to allocate WGTA funds. The intent of these consultations was and still is to elaborate effective and viable solutions that will fit the long term needs, be comprehensive in nature and be progressive for the industry.

The question is not about whether to change the WGTA but rather the best way to deliver the program to Canadian farmers. If the WGTA is left unchanged, the GATT could have significant impacts on certain crops such as canola.

We basically have two choices. We can change the WGTA so it is no longer within the definition of an export subsidy, or we can continue to pay the railways, but do so only with volume and monetary limits allowed by GATT. If we choose to continue to pay the railways, there will be immediate and severe restrictions on the volume shipped through the west coast and Churchill. That will be a problem with regard to the eligibility for subsidy.

For the first few years, the monetary limitations are not a significant problem, because the value of the WGTA has declined over the years from its peak amount.

However, the volume limitations are the major problem. Volumes have gone up dramatically, specifically in the new crops like canola and other specialty crops. The GATT value limiting oilseeds and special crops will very likely be reached sometime during the first part of the 1995-96 crop year.

That means sometime during that year shippers will suddenly run out of subsidy. As the volume exceeds that level, they will have to pay the full cost of the WGTA to the ports of Churchill and the west coast. Once those volume triggers are reached a tremendous problem will be created for them. That is obviously untenable and unacceptable.

There have been suggestions that if we were to subsidize all the grain movements into British Columbia, not just those for export, we might be able to disguise the situation. This would be called a domestication argument. It is an interesting concept but in reality it would likely not work.

The GATT agreement states that the export subsidy provisions shall not be applied in a manner which threatens to lead to circumvention of export subsidy commitments.

The notion of domestication is clearly and admittedly an attempt at circumvention. Canada cannot expect other exporters to allow that to go by unchallenged. The U.S. and the European Community would most certainly complain and probably win. If we were to expect them to honour their GATT commitments, which we do, then certainly it is incumbent upon us to be prepared to do the same.

Three options on the future method of paying the WGTA benefit are now being considered. One was put forward by the producer payment panel in June of 1994 and one by the Alberta government one month later. The third alternative consists of an upfront buyout plan. This type of option has been discussed and there will be a process worked out in the very near future. I know that the University of Saskatchewan has professors putting forward ideas.

Let us look at the producer payment panel recommendation. It suggests that across the prairies the benefits of the WGTA be distributed directly to producers. Producers would initially be paid on a cultivated acreage and then phased into an arable acreage payment. The panel also recommended that some of the funds be put into safety nets.

For its part, Alberta proposed allocating each prairie province their historic share of WGTA funds and allowing variations on how the payments would be paid to producers within a set of principles. The Alberta government proposal recommended against putting WGTA funds into safety nets. That was also supported by the Government of Saskatchewan.

In the near future the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food will bring all of the input received together in a reform to be presented to Parliament for its final consideration. The proposal will have to be consistent with the new rules of the World Trade Organization and will have to fit with our fiscal realities.

We still have some work to do before we reform the WGTA. The major amendments to be addressed on long term issues will be introduced soon. In the meantime, I urge all members to support the short term amendments contained in Bill C-66.

Canadian Potato Marketing Act February 6th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak on the subject of Bill C-266.

As the House knows the government recently concluded a comprehensive negotiation on a new GATT agreement which will create a new trade regime under the World Trade Organization. As a member of the GATT and the World Trade Organization, as well as being a signatory to the North American Free Trade Agreement, Canada has created for itself many new and expanding opportunities and with those, certain international trade obligations.

Bill C-266 as it is written suggests that a commission would, as the sole marketing agent, control all imports and all exports of potatoes. Under NAFTA and the MTN Canada has agreed not-let me stress not-to introduce any prohibitions or restrictions on the importation or exportation of goods.

If Canada were to change its current policies and thereby affect current and future access to our market, Canada would be modifying benefits that our trading partners would expect to accrue under the provisions of the trade agreements. This could be subject to challenge by our trading partners.

The Canadian potato and processing industries are major exporters and have significant interests in free trade and open markets. I realize the potato industry has been faced with many issues in recent years that have affected the marketing of potatoes both domestically and internationally. However, I do believe the issues would best be addressed in a manner that does not have negative implications on trade or violates our trade obligations.

For that reason I am not prepared to support Bill C-266 and I am sure that although the member opposite has real concern for that industry he can understand that in changing times we have to deal with the realities and that we are in a new trading pattern and these items will be dealt with in an open and free trade market.

Petitions December 13th, 1994

Madam Speaker, I have two petitions to present under Standing Order 36 that deal with section 745 of the Criminal Code. One is from members of the RCMP and many police officers in Saskatchewan and asks that section 745 be repealed.

I have another petition from numerous individuals in Alberta asking that section 745 be repealed. I am privileged to support these petitions.

Petitions December 12th, 1994

Madam Speaker, the third petition contains over 6,000 signatures from people right across Saskatchewan. They are concerned about the postal subsidy and the impact it will have on libraries right across Saskatchewan.

I am pleased to present these petitions.

Petitions December 12th, 1994

Madam Speaker, the second one is from a number of gun owners in my riding who have asked me to present a petition on their behalf.

Petitions December 12th, 1994

Madam Speaker, I have a number of petitions to bring forward today. The first one is in support of the Canadian Wheat Board and is signed by constituents of Souris-Moose Mountain.

Petitions December 5th, 1994

Madam Speaker, I would like to present a petition in opposition to same sex couple benefits.

Petitions December 5th, 1994

Madam Speaker, I would like to present a petition in support of the Canadian Wheat Board.