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Last in Parliament April 1997, as Liberal MP for Acadie—Bathurst (New Brunswick)

Won his last election, in 1993, with 66% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Canadian National May 18th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, the hon. member's premise is completely wrong. It is not the government's intention to pay anything for the real estate assets of CN that will not be transferred at the time of the issue. We have said that with the Department of Finance we will negotiate an arrangement to give CN a credit for the market value of any residual real estate assets.

The hon. member will know that the objective of the government is to try to put Canadian National railways out into the private sector in a condition that will allow it to operate in the same environment as Canadian Pacific. There will have to be some work done to reduce the $2.5 billion debt. I want to reassure my hon. friend that whatever the government does with respect to the sale of CN will be done in the very best interests of the Canadian taxpayers, both now and in the future.

Infrastructure May 16th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, today I welcome all the members of the fifth party to the House of Commons.

To make sure the hon. member understands this, the death highway he refers to was there during the nine years in which he was a member of government travelling to Nova Scotia. It has not changed in a year from the condition it was in eight years ago, seven years ago, six years ago, five years ago and so on.

The one thing we want to make sure of, which the hon. member should realize, is that it is quite true that by consensus funds are reallocated for highway construction. The difference is when the Government of Nova Scotia requested it we did consent, we did not hold it up the way he and his colleagues used to do when they were in government.

Highways May 16th, 1995

The question raised by the hon. member has been raised on a number of occasions. I want to repeat that the decisions with respect to highway construction in the provinces are the responsibility of the provinces.

The minister of transportation for the province of Nova Scotia approached us. He asked us if we were prepared to review the arrangements with the province of Nova Scotia with respect to allocations of federal funds for highway construction. We did that.

We have done the same thing with others. As a matter of fact, this week I met with the minister of transportation for Newfoundland to do exactly the same thing. We have done the same thing in Prince Edward Island. We have done the same thing in New Brunswick. We will do the same thing in any province in the country because we want to be flexible. We want to try to accommodate provinces that have the responsibility for deciding where highways are constructed within their jurisdiction.

Highways May 16th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, it is always edifying to all members of the House to have the hon. member report on the voices he has been listening to.

Highways May 15th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I can only say that had the member been tuned in, he would have known that the question has been raised in the House on a number of occasions by members of the Reform Party. As I indicated to them and as I want to advise my hon. colleague now, the decision to build highways in Nova Scotia is a decision of the Government of Nova Scotia. The report to which my hon. colleague refers is a report by the auditor general of Nova Scotia.

It is not unheard of and certainly no precedent for this government to be able to reallocate funds and to be flexible enough to recognize realities, whether that occurs in Newfoundland, Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick or in Nova Scotia. Under these agreements funds have been reallocated.

Any beef the hon. member has would be with the few colleagues he still has in Nova Scotia in the opposition there.

Highways May 15th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I want to welcome the leader of the fifth party back for his monthly appearance.

Air Traffic Control May 15th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, there have been millions of dollars spent already on this contract. I agree with the hon. member that the contract is not being delivered on schedule and that it is over budget.

We are negotiating with Hughes to try to find a solution to the problem. The hon. member would know that the contract was entered into a number of years ago. It came to my attention that there were problems with it and I immediately informed the auditor general of my concerns. I have discussed the matter with my deputy minister. We are going to try to find a solution to it.

The problem we face with Hughes I think the hon. member would recognize as a good reason why we should proceed

rapidly with the commercialization of the air navigation system to ensure that those who deliver the service, the people who use the service, and especially those who pay for it have a direct say in how these services are built and maintained.

Air Traffic Control May 15th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, the difficulties with Hughes on that contract are well known. As the hon. member has raised in the House and as I have agreed, we have to find a way out of that. It is a very difficult and complex question.

It is a very odd situation to have the hon. member now suggest that we should cancel the contract when has been such a stout defender of the Pearson contract.

Cn Commercialization Act May 15th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I move:

That Bill C-89, an act to provide for the continuance of the Canadian National Railway Company under the Canada Business Corportions Act and for the issuance and sale of shares of the Company to the public, be referred immediately to the Standing Committee on Transport.

I am pleased to open debate on Bill C-89, an act to commercialize the Canadian National Railway.

This is an historic occasion, one that marks a very clear turning point in the history of transportation in Canada. In 1923 the federal government completed the amalgamation and takeover of five privately run railways: the Grand Trunk, the Grand Trunk Pacific, Canadian Northern, the Transcontinental and the

Intercolonial. CNR was the result. With the help of the deep pockets of Canadian taxpayers, CN grew into what it is today.

Rail is not the only transportation method available now. Our shippers have other choices: the trucking industry, which has taken on a large part of the business; air freight; or through the seaway and the Great Lakes by ship. There is potential for strong competition in transportation in Canada, which is absolutely essential in any modern economy.

The legislation is part of our government's intention to have the private sector operate in areas where it can do the job best. The Minister of Finance said in the budget last February:

Our view is straightforward, if government does not need to run something it should not, and in the future it will not.

[Translation]

Under this bill, 100 per cent of the government's share in CN will be sold in a public offering. All Canadians, including CN employees, will have a chance to buy shares. A maximum of 15 per cent of shares may be held by any one individual or company; there will, however, be no restriction on foreign investors.

CN employees will continue in their current positions in the new CN, and their pensions will be protected under the Pension Benefits Standards Act. A standard stock savings plan will be offered to CN employees to encourage their participation in the new company.

The Head Office will remain in Montreal, and the Official Languages Act will continue to apply to CN employees. These provisions will have not impact on CN's "saleability", because they have both been in place for a long time and have served the CN and its customers well.

We believe that putting CN on a solid and viable financial footing is the best way to ensure that it will be able to maintain coast to coast rail service. CN must have every opportunity to compete fairly and aggressively with all its competitors, primarily, the trucking industry, CP Rail and the U.S. railroads.

To achieve these objectives, we have struck a balance between the obligations we wish to impose on the new company and the negative effects these could have on both the viability of CN and on the value of our equity.

The size of the public offering of CN stock is the largest in Canadian history and makes this balance a very delicate one. We need to be careful about imposing too many restrictions on CN. We must attract international investors, especially those in the U.S., with positive experience in rail investment. We want to ensure that the CN is free to function and finance its operations as its competitors do.

It is not our intention to impose onerous foreign ownership and service obligations on the new CN that do not apply to CP. We want to make sure that control of CN is broadly based so that no single individual or company controls more than 15 per cent of the shares.

CN has to be put on a sound financial footing. To achieve this, CN's current debt of $2.5 billion will have to be reduced to approximately $1.5 billion. CN's debt will have to be reduced to a level where it will receive an investment grade rating similar to that of its main Canadian and U.S. competitors. Our goal is to have CN in a capital position that would allow for at least a BBB bond rating.

The company is expected to raise funds to reduce debt prior to the sale by selling assets such as CN Exploration, which it has recently done, and the Scribe hotel in France which is currently being marketed. CN is also currently pursuing the sale of CANAC and its AMF maintenance shops in Montreal as well as some leasehold interests. CN's Canadian non-rail assets are not part of the deal. They will be retained by the crown. Our intention is to put the new company in a competitive position, not to tip the level of the playing field in CN's favour.

The legislation represents the government's firm commitment that both the company and the taxpayer must be treated fairly when the shares go to market. We have put together a unique structure to manage what will be the largest initial public offering in Canadian business history.

We have an agreement with three investment banks, ScotiaMcLeod Inc., Goldman, Sachs and Company of New York and Nesbitt Burns Inc., to form a consortium for the purposes of leading the deal. The arrangement will allow the Government of Canada and CN to draw on the resources and experience of these institutions in the decision making process.

Competition and a viable railroad system from coast to coast is burdened by the current regulatory environment. It is my intention to present to the House legislation that will chart the way to major reforms of our regulatory regime before summer. The legislation will provide the regulatory framework for the future of transportation in Canada. It will encourage the creation of short line railways and it will provide for real competition.

The regulatory process will ensure there will be no abandonment of service unless no one, private sector or government, wishes to take up the line. That will be the most obvious benefit of the reform but it will go much further. It will also provide the framework to allow all modes of transportation to perform efficiently and effectively without needless government intervention.

The aim is to put in place the framework for integrated transportation based on a policy that is consistent, transparent and fair for everyone. Transport Canada will focus its efforts on maintaining and improving the world class safety record enjoyed by our transportation industry, whether on the surface, in the air or on the water.

Our transportation system must be modern, dynamic, innovative, growing and as unrestricted as possible. We must constantly move forward to find newer and better ways to move our goods and our people if we are to remain competitive as a nation.

The air sector has been modernized with a national air force policy, open skies, bilateral agreements with the U.S., the international air routes policy and the commercialization of the air navigation system that will take place in April 1996. We will also announce the marine policy initiative the government intends to pursue before the end of 1995.

I support the motion to refer this legislation to the Standing Committee on Transport for review prior to second reading. I believe the Standing Committee on Transport will be well able to handle this task, as evidenced by the national marine strategy report tabled recently by the chairman, the member for Hamilton West. I look forward to hearing its suggestions and views on this legislation.

Over the years successive governments have attempted to maintain a reasonable level of competition in our rail transportation system. That strategy has only been relatively successful. It is time now for the government to withdraw from the direct operation of railroads and let the private sector do its job. It is time to put the private sector entrepreneurial skills we know exist to work to make CN a viable, successful and competitive operation.

I have every confidence that with this legislation the government is taking another step in its commitment to providing for an integrated, affordable, viable and competitive transportation system in Canada.

Newfoundland Dockyard May 10th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, the question of the dockyards in St. John's is one that has been discussed very thoroughly.

We have advised the president of Marine Atlantic to look into the commercialization of all the activities of Marine Atlantic, including the dockyard at St. John's.

The future of the dockyards at St. John's lies completely in the hands of the management of Marine Atlantic and especially the workers at that facility. We lost in excess of $3 million there last year. We do not intend to have that happen again.

Unless we can find a buyer for the dockyards at St. John's or a better solution than what we have been able to come up with so far, there will be no alternative but to close it. I hope that will not be the result of the work we have undertaken there. The board of directors and the president of Marine Atlantic have been given a

very clear directive that we have to commercialize the activities of that entire operation. That includes the dockyard at St. John's.