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  • Her favourite word was federal.

Last in Parliament March 2011, as Bloc MP for Québec (Québec)

Lost her last election, in 2019, with 33% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Immigration Act February 6th, 1995

Madam Speaker, I would like to make a brief comment because this is not really a question. I agree with the member for Bonaventure-Îles-de-la-Madeleine when he says that crime has not increased; on the contrary, as I mentioned in my text, it decreased by 5 per cent in 1993, and we are very happy about that.

However, I would like to go back to the comment made by my colleague for Bourassa, who says that we should have been more efficient in this bill and provided corrective action of an administrative nature. It is inconceivable that all the services should have been concentrated in Végréville.

In my riding, people are demanding services. They have expectations. They complain about public services that are very impersonal and becoming more and more inhuman, especially for an immigrant or someone who wants to come to Canada. It seems to me that the relationship that should exist between the people from the host country and those who want to come here has been removed.

I think that this contact has been removed and I too would have liked to see some corrective action in the bill. I will not go back to all the clauses in the bill, but I believe that some of them are contrary to the principle of equity and fairness towards the immigrant population and permanent residents. I think that leaving in the bill the concept of discredit, that is that immigrants are more criminals than native born Quebecers and Canadians is to harm these cultural communities that have chosen to live in Canada.

My colleague for Bonaventure-Îles-de-la-Madeleine said that Canada and Quebec are indeed societies that welcome immigrants and are in favour of immigration, but this bill, in my opinion, will contribute instead to an increase of racism towards these cultural communities. We read in the newspapers that a black or a Haitian has committed a crime, but when it comes to a Quebecer or a Canadian, they just say an individual. We should be extremely careful on this issue and I will not repeat my speech, but I think that many clauses in the bill are not flexible and compassionate enough, and I will conclude my remarks on that.

Immigration Act February 6th, 1995

Beyond the fears weighing on our minds, we have the following reservations about specific provisions of Bill C-44. The most important of these is the clearly expressed desire to eliminate the right to appeal allowed immigrants and refugees accused of crimes punishable by a prison term of ten years or more. This seems to run counter to the fundamental principles which should exist in a just society. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms should apply for us all as regards a fair and impartial procedure.

Another element of the bill which concerns us is that of sentencing. The bill considers only the nominal act, that is, the maximum penalty for the type of crime committed, without regard for the sentence actually imposed. We all know that, even though a crime is punishable by a 10-year prison term, in practice, judges use principles of sentencing to set terms. For example, someone who breaks into a private residence can be given a life sentence. According to the bill, the accomplice of someone who issues fraudulent credit cards could be deported to his or her country of origin.

In general, defendants are given much lighter sentences than the maximum. In certain cases, the sentence does not even include a prison term or a fine, the defendant is only given a suspended sentence or is put on probation. Persons given only very light sentences could see themselves, under the bill before

us, forced to leave the country. This provision of the bill could constitute, in our opinion, a violation of the Geneva Convention. The manual of the United Nations High Commission for Refugees states that, depending on the nature of the crime presumed to have been committed, all of the pertinent factors, including extenuating circumstances, must be taken into consideration. In our opinion, bill C-44 should take these considerations into account.

Another aspect that is ignored in the bill is the distinction between political crimes and common law crimes. It seems imprudent to deport persons convicted for political reasons to their country of origin without taking into account the risks they will face there. This kind of regulation is clearly lacking in flexibility and humanity. Would it not be better to take a closer look at the anticipated risks as compared to the seriousness of the crimes committed?

Other important issues are of concern to me, and I ask myself what will happen to permanent residents who have been living in Canada for several years. In some cases, they arrived in this country when they were quite small. Today, they are adults, they work here, are part of the same family and have only vague memories of their country of origin. They have no more relatives and often no more friends over there. Since these people are now Quebecers and Canadians, is returning them to their country of origin the answer?

Other aspects of the bill also deserve closer scrutiny. The bill proposes to authorize immigration officers to seize and open any parcel or document if they suspect it may be used for fraudulent purposes. Is this not a violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms? One of the principles of our judiciary system is the presumption of innocence, but these provisions on seizing mail reverse the burden of proof. On what grounds will seizures be made and how can the criminal nature of the contents be identified? That is something to think about.

The bill also provides that certain decisions that were formerly made by the Immigration and Refugee Board will, from now on, be made by the Department of Citizenship and Immigration and its officials. The minister and his officials are being given new powers to appeal decisions made by an adjudicator in the course of an inquiry, but on the other hand, the commission is being deprived of its power to review cases on humanitarian grounds. Does this mean the administrative process is being politicized? Is this an attack on the independence of the IRB? Would it not be better to improve the way the IRB operates?

I would also like to mention the findings of a study by the Department of Citizenship and Immigration which were released last summer. According to the study, 1,888 foreign criminals who were to be deported were still at large. Is there a way to find these people and try and prevent others from doing the same thing in the future, without necessarily making it harder to enter the country and running the risk of creating situations that are just as embarrassing as the one I just described? Is the problem of foreign criminals at large specific? In other words, are there more foreigners at large than Canadians or Quebecers that were born here? How many Canadians and Quebecers are now wanted by the police? Do they represent a percentage of Canadians that is significantly smaller than the percentage of immigrants in the same situation? We think the government should provide all the facts on the subject in order to better inform the public and set the record straight on the number of foreign criminals at large. In that way we would stop the witch hunt for immigrants and refugee claimants.

I would like to say again that the Bloc Quebecois is aware of the problems associated with foreign criminals presently in Canada. We also know that crime causes turmoil and terror in our communities. We will support the government in its attempts to arrive at an enduring and fair solution to this problem. We agree wholeheartedly that immigrants and refugee claimants cannot use the legislation or reputation of Canada or Quebec to escape their country of origin if they have committed serious offences.

We will not be distracted by unfounded observations which, as we have emphasized, do not reflect reality. The Canadian government seems at this time to be toughening its stance in order to appeal to certain voters. Consider for instance the Young Offenders Act passed during the last session or the increasing hesitation of Liberal caucus members in respect of gun control, or even motion M-157, tabled by the Liberal member for Scarborough-Rouge River, which aims to restrict immigration during periods of recession.

And while we are on the subject, I would also like to point out that Bill C-44, like many other government initiatives, does not reflect the situation in Quebec. In fact, public opinion in Quebec differs greatly from that in the rest of Canada in regards to the link between crime and immigration. As the Globe and Mail reminded us last week, Quebecers did not let the few bad cases recently experienced in Canada-which we deplore-influence their attitude and behaviour. This may be another aspect of Quebec's distinctiveness.

Immigrants make a fundamental and undeniable contribution to Quebec and Canadian society's collective wealth. A law designed to prevent criminals from enjoying the right of admission to and asylum in Canada should not be misused. The goals set are not always consistent with the measures put forward to achieve them.

That, unfortunately, seems to be the problem with Bill C-44 as it now stands.

Unfortunately, the government caved in to public pressure from certain groups and ignored our recommendations.

The minister unjustifiably rejected our recommendations. Let us take only one example, as time is running out. Let us consider the minimum two-year limit that we propose as a guideline. The minister replied that this proposal was not credible because the duration of the sentence handed down varies according to geographical and other arbitrary factors. He would rather keep the theoretical ten-year limit, when the courts use well-established rules to determine sentencing. These rules take into account the mitigating circumstances surrounding the crime. The minister thinks he is better able to determine an individual's fate than the courts. Instead of relying on the court, he prefers to decide himself whether or not he should use his power for humanitarian reasons. That coming from the same person who said barely a year ago that there should be less political involvement in the immigration system. It is easy to see that he is already under some pressure. What will happen when he and his colleagues are continuously subjected to strong public pressure?

For all the reasons I mentioned in my speech, the opposition cannot support this bill.

Immigration Act February 6th, 1995

Madam Speaker, I rise today to participate in the debate, at third reading, on Bill C-44, which amends the Immigration Act, the Citizenship Act and the Customs Act.

Before getting to the crux of the matter, I want to make a few comments to help us during this debate or at least to make us think of the importance of the decisions which we will be making when we vote on this bill.

In Part I of the Immigration Act outlining the Canadian immigration policy, sections (i) and (j) mention the need to maintain and protect the health, safety and good order of Canadian society'', and alsopromote international order and justice by denying the use of Canadian territory to persons who are likely to engage in criminal activity''.

We agree with these principles and objectives because they reflect the large consensus on which are based our legal and justice systems. But there are also concerns which are directly related to Bill C-44 and which are equally important to understand the issue being debated.

During the recent consultations held by the minister regarding immigration, someone said that "intolerance was the fastest growing industry in Canada". Hysteria, racism and fear result from intolerance and generally lead people to confuse reality with perception. Reality is what exists in fact, while perception is the representation of something based on an impression.

This is why, for some time now, Canadians have been under the impression that criminal immigrants abound in our country. Given such an impression, it is easy to jump to the conclusion that immigrants are responsible for most crimes.

We must firmly oppose the spreading of adulterated and erroneous information on immigration, since it adversely affects the relation of confidence which should exist between a host country and its immigrants.

Last year, a study conducted by the Department of Citizenship and Immigration revealed that there is no link between ethnic origin and the propensity to commit crimes. Contrary to what some people would have us believe, persons born abroad and now living in Canada are under-represented in the prison population, as Derrick Thomas, senior researcher in the department has confirmed. While new arrivals represent 20.2 per cent of Canada's population, they represent only 11.9 per cent of the population in prison or on parole. Moreover, contrary to certain popular beliefs, visible minorities are not inordinately represented in statistics on crime.

In view of the many questions people have and the concerns they express, it is worth pointing out that the crime rate dropped by 5 per cent in 1993. According to the Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, the crime rate reported by police departments dropped for the second consecutive year in 1993. The 5 per cent decrease is the biggest in a single year since the practice of gathering statistics on crime began in 1962.

This confirms the statement I made earlier about reality and perceptions. While the public feels that crime has increased generally, this is not actually the case. The same thing may be said for the relationship people try to establish between immigration and criminality.

It is certainly not my intention to downplay the seriousness of criminal activities. They exist, and we are aware of them. I know people experience real fear about their safety. Surveys have shown this. Nevertheless, we have to look at the facts.

We should also look for and decry the source of public misconceptions. This House must not reflect the sensationalism of supermarket tabloids or the media, which give too much attention to individual cases making them appear to be the norm in Canada.

It is unbelievable that, having first singled out young people as being the source of all evil, we are now pointing to immigrants as being the scourge of humanity. Should we not regard socio-economic conditions as the fundamental basis of crime and not immigration? And are not the difficulties in the areas of finances, adjustment, training and employment experienced by immigrant families, and young people in particular, the true causes of crime rather than immigration itself? Do you agree?

Liberation Of Auschwitz-Birkenau February 6th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, on January 18, the whole world remembered the horrors of the Second World War. That day marked the fiftieth anniversary of the liberation of the survivors of the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp.

It cannot be too emphatically stated that this concentration camp was used by the Nazis to exterminate over a million prisoners, more than 90 per cent of whom were Jews. We want to remind this House that these tragic events are an important part of our history, and we hope that such atrocities will never occur again.

The Bloc Quebecois wishes to take this opportunity to declare our solidarity with the families of these victims, and particularly to the Jewish people who suffered so much during that tragic episode in the history of mankind.

Department Of Canadian Heritage Act December 15th, 1994

A member should represent the public, be the voice of the people. The people of Quebec have given us a vote of confidence and sent us to Ottawa to defend their interests.

We defend positions that are not being defended by federalists living in Quebec, who want to repatriate powers, who want full control in Quebec. We did not invent that.

Department Of Canadian Heritage Act December 15th, 1994

I do not think it is fitting for a member of this House to say: "Just look at me; I am well-travelled, I am fantastic".

Department Of Canadian Heritage Act December 15th, 1994

It is not the first time I hear the hon. member speak that way. He talks as if the world revolves around him. He is the centre of the universe and says: "Just look at me; I am well-travelled, I am fantastic."

Department Of Canadian Heritage Act December 15th, 1994

Madam Speaker, let me remind the hon. member for Bonaventure-Îles-de-la-Madeleine that we are paying 25 per cent of the CBC budget, but we cannot say that the English network is of much use to us. I would like to go back to the remarks made by the hon. member, who said that all official opposition's comments were hogwash.

I think the hon. member has no respect for the vote of confidence given the elected members of the Bloc Quebecois, for the mandate they were given to come to Ottawa to work after Quebec's interests. That is exactly what we are doing today, defending Quebec's interests. I think the hon. member does not respect our mandate.

After all, we are a majority in Quebec, a majority of Quebec MPs. I hope very many Quebecers will have heard the hon. member say in this House today that our comments are only hogwash and I hope they will draw their own conclusions from his disrespectful remarks.

Department Of Canadian Heritage Act December 15th, 1994

Madam Speaker, a Quebecer is someone who believes in Quebec values. He believes he can identify himself as a Quebecer. A Quebecer is someone who travels. I heard Mr. Dupuy say that when he is in Canada, he says he is from Quebec, and when he is in another country, he says he is from Canada.

I have no trouble identifying myself. When I travel throughout the world, and I have had several opportunities to do so, when I am outside my country, outside Quebec, I say I am a Quebecer. When I say I am a Quebecer, people realize I am a francophone, because outside Canada, people know there is a francophone majority living in Canada. This is a way of identifying myself as a Quebecer.

A Quebecer is also someone who believes in his or her values. I think Quebec must have all the tools it needs to be able to decide its future.

Centralizing all decision-making authority and standardizing all programs the way the government is doing today is not going to help Quebec find its identity.

Department Of Canadian Heritage Act December 15th, 1994

Madam Speaker, I am a little surprised the hon. member for Bonaventure-Îles-de-la-Madeleine should ask this question. As a Quebecer himself, he ought to know.

A Quebecer is, first of all, someone who lives in Quebec and is defined as such by his language and culture. I am not going to make a long speech about what it means to be a Quebecer. If the hon. member has trouble explaining what it means to him to be a Quebecer, then he is the one who has a problem.