Mr. Speaker, when I say that the government is telling lies, I am not addressing a specific individual, but an institution.
When, in response to a question from an hon. member, someone says that member has just told a lie, that is specific to an individual.
I would submit that you ought to be reprimanding the Minister of Public Works and Government Services and not myself. I was referring to an institution, and he to a very specific individual.
I think that the point the parliamentary secretary has just raised is totally in my favour, and I thank him for it.