Mr. Speaker, it is a pleasure to speak to this bill today. It is a bill to which I am opposed. I find it
is fundamentally flawed. A measure of that is the co-operation among all parties where there is widespread concern about the bill.
The bill stands for more than the government would have us believe. Chief Justice Lamer, in the Mossop case, said: "Indeed, in this case if Parliament had decided to include sexual orientation on the list of prohibited grounds of discrimination in the Canadian Human Rights Act, my interpretation of the phrase family status might have been entirely different. I might then have concluded that Mr. Mossop's situation included both his sexual orientation and his family status". That is the underlying concern that many of us have with the bill.
Max Yalden, chief commissioner of the Canadian Human Rights Commission, similarly stated: "We are strongly in favour of an amendment that would prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation. That means if benefits are paid to a heterosexual couple living in common law, the same benefits should be paid to a couple living in the same situation except that they are two men or two women. Our position on that matter is very clear. We are waiting for the government's reaction".
That sentiment is fairly well founded when there is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and someone of Mr. Yalden's expertise commenting.
It was reported in a local newspaper that the government's position on this, that these matters were not of concern, was a position that was seriously flawed. If I used the wording in the newspaper article I would be called to account for unparliamentary language.
I will point out the comments of one member opposite who said that some of our members stood up in the House today and said "blank" about this legislation. I will leave the word "blank" to your discretion. However, the legislation is more than it seems.
The previous speaker talked about polling. In my riding we tried to get a feeling about how our constituents felt about this legislation. We asked two questions. The first was: "Do you think the federal government should amend legislation to add sexual orientation as a grounds of discrimination?" A slim majority of people felt this was a reasonable objective.
The second question was: "Would you support this amendment if it means that homosexual couples would receive economic and family benefits which include medical, survivor, income tax benefits and so on?" That was where people drew the line. When we factored that question into it there was opposition to that bill.
Anybody who seriously polls their constituents on this bill must ask those two questions, the first question being simply whether they support the bill and the second and most important one being whether they support it if these are the implications.
Given the implications and that there is a large religious community in the country concerned about these implications, the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops proposed some amendments to the member from Edmonton from my party. He checked with the Evangelical Fellowship of Canada and asked if it would support the amendments to the bill.
The amendments proposed by the Catholic bishops are simply: one, the definition of marital status and family status under the Canadian Human Rights Act be limited to heterosexual couples, as the Canadian Council of Catholic Bishops says, because of their irreplaceable role in the procreation and nurturing of children, upon which the future of our society depends; two, it should be legislatively permitted that the history and social objectives of this legislation be taken into account in determining whether certain policy distinctions amount to unjust discrimination; three, the teaching and hiring practices of religious institutions are to be protected.
Unfortunately the government, although claiming the bill would not have these effects, is reluctant to support amendments which would support the position of Canadian Catholic bishops and Evangelical Christians in Canada. I believe that really speaks words for the intentions of the government in promoting this bill.
I do not have any difficulty in voting against this. I believe my constituents are solidly opposed to the bill for the reasons I gave. However, the big concern I have in addressing the bill deals with my first priority in life. Believe it or not, as much as I value my position as a member of Parliament, it is not my first priority in life. The first priority in my life is trying to be a reasonable father for my children. As much as I may have failings, I do have good support at home from my wife, for which I am eternally grateful.
When I look at the bill and recognize the implications the government has in proposing it, I ask whether the bill is really stating that thou shalt not discriminate, or is it presenting to the children of this country an alternate lifestyle in stating that this lifestyle is of equal significance, importance or value as another.
I as a parent cannot say I would sit my son or daughters beside me and tell them one of their choices is to marry Jane down the street, have a family and raise children, but another equally legitimate lifestyle is the homosexual lifestyle. I do not believe those two lifestyles are equal. Because an adult makes a personal decision in these matters does not say that I am opposed to him or her, or that I look down on him or her. My role is not to be judgmental to that degree.
My role as a parent is to present reasonable alternatives to my children. By supporting this legislation which will lead, I believe, to family benefits and that sort of thing for homosexual couples, the underlying theme for our children that this is a legitimate alternative. I do not think it can be presented that way. For that
reason I am very concerned and will be voting against it when the time comes.