Madam Speaker, I will be sharing my time with the member for Langley.
I am pleased to be speaking to this motion today. I congratulate my Bloc colleague for bringing it forth. It is an important motion, probably well beyond what most people recognize. It is an important part of trying to deal with this serious and growing problem of organized crime.
The motion today is about the government putting forth a bill by May 31, 2005, to amend the Criminal Code by reversing the burden of proof with regard to the proceeds of crime, which is important. This change would require that the accused, once found guilty, not someone who has been charged with being involved in organized crime, would need to demonstrate, on the balance of probabilities, that the his assets were not obtained through involvement in organized crime. I think this is a very reasonable approach to take in this circumstance. It is also an extremely important part of the puzzle to deal with the growing problem of organized crime.
Another important tool that is absolutely needed is much stronger money laundering legislation. Most countries around the world have dealt with this issue much more effectively than we have in this country. The government passed some legislation back in about 2000 but it was a very small first step. It promised to revisit the issue and come up with much stronger legislation on money laundering but it has not done that. Until that is done there is no way to effectively deal with organized crime, although removing the proceeds of crime certainly would help.
The third thing we need to do is to put in place more serious penalties for those who are found guilty of involvement in organized crime. Unfortunately, because of the way the courts interpret our law, which is presented in such a weak fashion, they do not provide the appropriate punishment.
Those are the three main areas that have to be dealt with before we can ever seriously hope to deal with organized crime.
If anyone thinks that organized crime is not a serious and growing problem they are not looking at this in an honest way. I am a member of the NATO parliamentarians. I meet with colleagues from other NATO countries, from Europe and the United States, about three times a year, as well as with about 30 to 40 observer countries, some of which wish to become members of NATO, which is probably the strongest security organization in the history of mankind.
I am on the economic committee with parliamentarians from other NATO countries and one of the topics we often discuss in-depth is the problem of organized crime. We discuss it by looking at the two main problems that organized crime causes. The first is that organized crime is the primary funding source for terrorism in the world today. Until we can deal with organized crime we simply cannot deal with terrorism.
The second problem is that organized crime destabilizes societies more than anything else. When we look at former Soviet bloc countries, many people wonder why they have been so slow to develop a market economy, a democracy and a stable society. The answer is that organized crime controls those countries. Until we can effectively deal with organized crime we will have destabilized countries, such as Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, and the list goes on.
Organized crime is a very serious and growing problem in the world today. If anyone thinks that Canada has been spared from organized crime, they too are kidding themselves.
When I was the immigration critic for our party between 1997 and 1999, I had a private meeting with an individual who was very high up in an organization trying to deal with the problem of organized crime in Canada. He told me something that shocked me at that time and still shocks me today. He told me that organized crime was so well-entrenched in our country and growing at a such a remarkable rate, with all the major banks, key positions in the civil service and major police forces having been infiltrated by members of organized crime, that it was extremely difficult to deal with the problem.
The problem we are talking about today and the approach we are taking today is an important step but we also have to deal with this infiltration of our major institutions by members of organized crime.
This person went beyond that statement and made other statements confidentially, which I do not really want to repeat here. However Canadians should be very concerned about the growing problem of organized crime in this country and we must deal with it.
I truly commend the Bloc Québécois for bringing forth this important motion. I am also happy that there seems to be support from all parties in the House.
However I was somewhat concerned by at least two things presented by the parliamentary secretary, the first one being his weak commitment to this and the excuses for why it will not happen very fast.
My second concern is that the agenda on important issues like this has been driven more often by the opposition than by government, which is not the way things are supposed to work, but this government is so weak on these things. For some reason it seems to oppose and resist dealing with these tough and important issues. I cannot impugn motives in the House because that would not be proper, but one has to wonder why the Liberals are so resistant to dealing with the whole issue of organized crime. Their attitude concerns me. The final excuse they use is that the charter prevents it, which I do not believe for a minute.
I think everyone understands that we have to respect the Constitution of this country but I think the charter is used as an excuse all too often. It has nothing to do with respecting the charter when it comes to dealing with an issue like this. I understand we have to draft legislation that respects the charter and our Constitution but that can be done.
It would be an important move forward if we were to actually pass something on this. This may sound a little cynical and little negative, but what I believe will happen, unfortunately, is that the government will balk on this, it will miss the May 31 deadline, an election will be called sometime within the next year and this will never pass through the House of Commons. In reality, that is probably what will happen with this.
I encourage all Canadians who are paying attention to this issue to put a lot of pressure on the Liberal government to actually do something about this.
I look forward to the rest of the debate in the House today. I again commend the member and his party for this important motion, the importance of which is not to be understated. Let us move forward to deal with the other important issues, including the infiltration of organized crime into those institutions that are so critical to providing a stable society in Canada today.