Mr. Speaker, I look forward to continuing the debate with my colleague across the aisle about carbon tax.
One of the things that will probably occur tonight is we will probably both draw from a particular document that was released by the Parliamentary Budget Officer today. I heard the member refer to it earlier today. We will probably both refer to it as we verify our side of the debate. It says:
In 2030-31, taking into consideration both fiscal and economic impacts, PBO estimates that the average household in each of the backstop provinces will see a net cost, paying more in the federal fuel charge and related Goods and Services Tax, as well as receiving lower incomes (due to the fuel charge), compared to the Canada Carbon Rebate they receive and lower net taxes they pay (due to lower incomes).
That would suggest to me that there are people in this country who will get less back than they receive in rebates.
Here is another one from the report:
...the economic impact of the federal fuel charge is combined with the fiscal impact, the net cost increases for the average household across all income quintiles, reflecting the overall negative economic impact of the fuel charge.
In 2030-31, taking into consideration both fiscal and economic impacts, we estimate that the average household in each of the backstop provinces will see a net cost, paying more in the federal fuel charge and GST, as well as receiving lower incomes.
Another one says:
However, as PBO has noted, Canada’s own emissions are not large enough to materially impact climate change and therefore their reduction would not materially affect the Canadian economy.
There was a chart on the average cost for an Albertan showing they would pay $697, so almost $700 more, in tax than they receive. That is data from the report.
There are a couple more out there. There was the Agriculture Carbon Alliance. It sampled 50 farms and showed a total $330,000, in just one month, paid in carbon tax. Now if we have 190,000 farms in Canada, that gets to be a big number.
What makes it different in my riding is irrigation. As I said before, when I met with one farmer with an irrigated farm, he paid approximately $100,000 in carbon tax a year. I saw the bills he had, and went through them with him.
I have hundreds of irrigated farms in my riding. If we multiply that number, we get the amount that is paid in carbon tax from irrigation farms. There is no rebate on what they use to power this. There are no exemptions. The amount that irrigation farm farmers in my area, who produce high-quality crops, pay is huge. What they ask me is, “Why does EV production get a $50-billion subsidy, when we have to pay a huge carbon tax?”
The farmers in my area see the carbon tax as a huge cost to them, much higher than average farmers, who are paying a lot. They see the subsidy to EV batteries at $50 billion, rather than them paying the carbon tax. It is really tough for them to take.