Citizenship and Immigration committee  We certainly hope so. I can speak on behalf of CMI. As an immigration practitioner and someone who competes, who is out there, who has gone through the standards, who meets the standards, who renews his membership every two years, and who holds himself out to be competent, I absolutely do.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Absolutely.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Uppal, in fact this harkens back to our presentation about this bill closing those legal loopholes. The penalty provisions are very simple. In 2008, when this committee considered the immigration consultants, CBSA appeared before this committee and told the committee that they tried to go after ghost consultants and the justice department told them that it was a civil matter.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Ethics is done through CSIC because that's mandatory.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I do, Mr. Young. Thank you for that question. When we talk about the regulatory review, we're talking about the review of designating a regulator for immigration consultants. The issue we've seen is that ghost consultants, as we know, thrive on misinformation. Unfortunately, the reports we're getting from our fellows overseas in some of the most vulnerable markets, such as China and India, are that ghost consultants are using the minister's various public statements against CSIC, or they're twisting them to be against CSIC, and they're sayting to their clients, “CSIC is about to be closed.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Well, hopefully it will be, until this is all sorted out and CSIC is redesignated.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Absolutely. Thank you, Mr. Young, for that question. We offer various types of courses based on CSIC. CSIC, as the regulator, sets the educational standards. Our courses have to meet those standards at a bare minimum. The different courses we offer include information on, for example, the Quebec immigration system, and how to file various applications.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  The document is just today's presentation as well as the survey we did. As far as financial information is concerned, I'm not sure which report you are looking at. Are you looking at the most recent one?

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Absolutely.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  That was part of the last financial statement. It was under “Equity”.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes, there is a report to our shareholders. Absolutely.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Up until recently, CSIC has been investing in CMI. We have provided, without any additional cost to any of our fellows, services that include access to some of the most useful or powerful tools immigration consultants and practitioners can use today, including LexisNexis, Quicklaw, and QuickImmigrant.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  CMI is a subsidiary of the Canadian Society of Immigration Consultants.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes, Mr. Trudeau. That's an excellent question. The CMI-CSIC relationship is not too dissimilar from what the law society has just set up with Legal Education Ontario, so that the law society can concentrate on governing lawyers, whereas Legal Education Ontario does the education for it.