Transport committee  That process has already started with our legal people. Any legal process now seems to take forever and ever. Realistically, the reasons why we're here, and what I'm hearing today from both sides here.... It really concerns me. As the chairman pointed out, these are the leaders of the country here, who are supposed to be looking after all of our citizens, and all I'm hearing from the Conservative side is pass the buck, let's deflect, let's talk about how come Air Canada or Aveos is not put into the Air Canada act, and how come the IAM is not in the Air Canada act....

Transport committee  Not until after the shutdown.

Transport committee  No, we definitely don't think that Aveos is a victim. It may just have been an oversight; I don't know.

Transport committee  I think what we'd like to see is to get all the parties together at some point to sit down and talk about those solutions. I mean, it's—

Transport committee  Well, the government, Air Canada, the unions.... If there are investors out there that are looking to invest in the company, or if there's someone who can operate it, then it should be all of us together working to try to make sure that it happens.

Transport committee  Yes.

Transport committee  It's early in the discussions, so at this point I can't say a whole lot about it.

Transport committee  Well, at this point I'm not feeling real good about anything, because I still have so many people out of work—

Transport committee  —so it's a tough position.

Transport committee  Sure. The vast majority of them would like to do that. As we talked about earlier, a decade of things being totally negative and a real trying time have definitely caused some people to start looking for other employment, which is one of our fears. If we don't do something quickly with this and move on, we will lose the people who have that technology and training, because they will have to move on to something else.

Transport committee  They have no choice, because they're not getting money from anywhere. They've obviously had to start looking for places for any type of work to pay their bills and keep their kids fed and clothed.

Transport committee  The Aveos group would probably be under 40 as a whole.

Transport committee  Yes. As you've indicated, a solution, a long-term solution, is what we're looking for.

Transport committee  I wouldn't say I've ruled out a bailout. I'm not sure what the government can do for us. The employment of 2,600 people should be of interest to even the Conservative government, and we should be worried about employment and jobs right across the country. We're asking for assistance from the government to make sure those people get jobs in the future.

Transport committee  I accept that Aveos is gone. I'm kind of glad they are gone, because they don't seem to be a very good company to work for.