Industry committee  I can't do it. This is going on record, and it will involve some constitutional items.

Industry committee  You don't realize how many electrical poles and infrastructure components are out there, around the landscape, until you start working in electricity. You don't realize how many drilling rig signs there are until you start driving and have to find the drilling rig by knowing where the signs are on the side of the road.

Industry committee  You really don't want me to answer that question.

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  Well, if you're asking my opinion, then yes.

Industry committee  I will say this, and I think this is important. The one thing to add to the model is where this funding should be allocated to and where it should be drawn from. If the infrastructure bank is actually created, that's where you want to do the financing of the towers and our ability to deliver those services.

Industry committee  It's an excellent question. I remember when DAVE Wireless was at the regulatory stage, begging the CRTC and Industry Canada to enforce the tower-sharing agreement. The problem is that if you make an application to Telus, they will say it's going to take them three months to do a wind load calculation and engineering drawings.

Industry committee  The short answer is yes, but, again, your question actually is a spectrum question. With an allocation of spectrum, both of us can provide those bandwidths easily, with the proper spectrum to support our radios.

Industry committee  Sure. A voice line is about 56 kilobits a second, originally over a twisted pair, which is copper. It's the old phone line, POTS, plain old telephone system, delivered to your set. What Industry Canada did, as I understand it—and as an aside, what my engineer told me to make sure I bring up—is that the pricing is based on how much 56 kilobits is used in the spectrum, and that's how the pricing is come to.

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  Oh, dear. You want a more comprehensive answer than “yes”?

Industry committee  How? I'm sorry, I thought I was fairly clear, but I'll go through what I think again. Maybe I'm missing something. You simply take underserved areas; you assess an area to one company; and that one company manages that area for providing spectrum. There are all kinds of checklists you can use, such as they need to meet this requirement; they need to do this; they need not too much of this, that, and the other thing, but you give single-source provision of services, and then you support those services by making sure that spectrum is available to that single source, to make sure the need is met.

Industry committee  There's no spectrum. There's no access. I'll refer back to Wandering River, where terabytes of data was going by in the ditch, and they could not get 500 kilobytes up. Right there, it's just like—

Industry committee  It's really easy; you put a time frame on a response. There's a need. It's been identified what the need is. If you want to support the major telcos, you say you have 90 days to respond to this need that's been identified. You have assets in the area. If you do not want to, we will go to the next tier level of communication companies to offer it to them.

Industry committee  I'll try to be brief. Yes, absolutely. It's okay for big, multinational companies—