Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Yes. I was a member of the team that worked on those names, so I know the names on that list. I was part of the team to identify them. The actions related to the crimes happened on the ground, so I can provide that list for you.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Unless there is urgent action by the international community.... We regretted not taking action or not accepting the Jewish people in the 1950s. We regretted and we issued an apology. Some countries like Communist China are dangerous. Some dangerous policies are still going on, such as killing people indiscriminately, or holding them in concentration camps.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  You might be surprised. Fifty-four professors from the so-called Xinjiang University, Uighurs, were taken to a concentration camp. Rahile Dawut, a well-known anthropologist who graduated from a U.S. university, disappeared nine months ago and it is now confirmed that she is in a concentration camp.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  There's no evidence that Uighurs are a security threat to China. This is number one. If Uighurs are a security threat for China, then how about the scholars? Even the senior-level government official who served as the top energy minister, whose name is Nur Bekri, is under investigation.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I would like to appeal to each member here. We are in Canada. We are proudly Canadian. We always speak up and promote human rights globally. The Canadian position when it comes to this issue is a little disappointing for every member of our community. We can issue a public statement.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  You are right. The sanctions are one part, and they are just on the individuals who are responsible. Mostly, we have to show some strong reaction. As you said, China invests in strategic sectors like energy and infrastructure, so Canada should carefully review the Chinese investments and stop them.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Well, we have to start from our own country, from Canada, and have our communities give testimony—everyone. Those people behind me right now, they have a list of relatives currently in Chinese concentration camps. We are going to collect those names as a community. It will be done everywhere—in the United States and Europe.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  So far, I don't know. There is one Uighur girl who received a deportation order. After it became known, I immediately visited the department of foreign affairs and I requested help. I asked my MP, Mr. Omar Alghabra, and said, listen this is going to be a scandal for Canada if we send this Uighur girl, who just turned 18, to China.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Sure, I will.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  There is China's belt and road initiative, proposed in 2014 by President Xi Jinping, owned by President Xi Jinping, and endorsed by President Xi Jinping. It is called a 21st-century Marshall Plan. It runs from the east coast of China all the way north to Moscow, to Europe and the Middle East, and to the southern part of Europe and Africa.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  One is Malaysia, besides all major western powers, I mean. Malaysia publicly spoke out not only against China's belt and road initiative but also against China's oppression of Uighurs. Another is Pakistan, which also started to speak out because Pakistan realized that with the Chinese belt and road initiative, despite the investment, the majority of the construction and other money that China spends goes back to China again.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Malaysia has stopped all Chinese investment under the name of belt and road initiative after the new presidential election. It not only stopped and paused the Chinese build and their other initiatives. At the same time, they spoke up and condemned the Chinese treatment of Uighurs in concentration camps.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Actually, organ harvesting first started with the Uighurs in China because, more or less, they are supporters of Falun Gong either secretly in government or in civil society. So if anything happens, immediately people make it public. For that reason, they have more access to information, and access to information is not that strict for ordinary Chinese citizens.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Yes, the ethnic Kazakhs, the Kurds, and the native people of East Turkestan. It is not only the Uighurs, they are part of this persecution as well. The Kazakhs and Kurds fled to neighbouring stan countries. Some of them managed to escape and saved their lives. Many of them still languish in concentration camps.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  In 1950, when the Chinese communist army came to the region under the command of Wang Zhen, there were about 2,500 to 3,000 Chinese in the whole area. Now even the Chinese government says it is 46% Chinese. If you include paramilitary forces, or some seasonal workers, the overall Chinese population could be more than Uighurs.