Government Operations committee  Absolutely.

Government Operations committee  They were just finalized. We've set up the pools, and I can give you how many people are in the pool. We are promoting those pools for jobs within Veterans Affairs Canada. I know we have already hired three out of the pools. I hired one of them. We are setting up the HR plan this year, and we're going to be promoting those pools as part of the recruitment effort within the department.

Government Operations committee  What's interesting about this competition is we took veterans' and Canadian Armed Forces' experience, and we made it essential, meaning only those who had that experience could apply. You need to be careful because you don't want to exclude other people, but we were very bold in doing that.

Government Operations committee  I cannot pronounce on the public service. It's under the purview of the Public Service Commission.

Government Operations committee  Okay.

Government Operations committee  So, for—

Government Operations committee  —and that's what we're doing.

Government Operations committee  I think it was—

Government Operations committee  I'll need to validate the number, but I believe it was about five. What I wanted to say was that the job offers were not close to where their homes were.

Government Operations committee  They were also, I think, surprised to be offered a job—

Government Operations committee  —and they wanted to go back and talk to their families.

Government Operations committee  This is important feedback that we've received from our clients. Some may want to move, but some really want to stay where they have been. An example is the number of veterans who have moved to Prince Edward Island because they want to come to the island and that's where their family is.

Government Operations committee  We have the tools and we need to educate managers—

Government Operations committee  So, we have—

Government Operations committee  In Veterans Affairs, I can speak to what we're doing within our department. Within our department, we are promoting veteran hiring. We put in place targeted pools so that managers know that there are veterans—