Procedure and House Affairs committee  That doesn't speak to the timing.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  He's not going to [Inaudible—Editor]. Is that right?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  It is a point of order.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Although Mr. Cooper is trying to amend the motion in order to talk about foreign interference, all he's really doing is he's attempting to amend the motion's timing. This doesn't give him carte blanche to start talking about foreign interference. He can talk about the timing of it.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Are you done?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I do. The way the previous chair did it was that she held on to the existing one and went to a new one. After we were done there, it went back to the other one. I think doing it that way also encourages people to stay on topic.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'll speak to the subamendment.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you. Thank you for the amendment. I think it's extremely germane. I think it lends itself well to the motion. As part of this study, I would really like to hear from the Sergeant-at-Arms, specifically because of the comments he's made and because of media reports lately that have involved the Sergeant-at-Arms: stuff that's going on at constituency offices and how MPs may or may not be harassing constituency employees by showing up at offices that don't belong to them.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  You just got elected, and you're already taking time off.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  In response to your question—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Madam Chair, Mr. Berthold is repeating in French what Mr. Duncan said. Mr. Berthold is doing exactly what Mr. Duncan was doing. He's just doing it in French now. I think that it would be.... Perhaps he has just arrived back at the meeting and you will want to update him on the previous rulings you made at this committee meeting.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you very much for being here. If I understood you correctly in your opening statement, you said that your role for protocol is everything outside of this building, with the exception of maybe a hallway or something. Is that true?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  You certainly don't have jurisdiction, for lack of a better term, over the chamber.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  However, you're here as a witness on a study that we're doing on something that happened in the chamber. I want to echo the comments of Madame Gaudreau. I greatly appreciate the work you do. I found it very interesting, even if the purpose this served was nothing less than understanding exactly what it is you do in developing and maintaining those relationships between Canada and other countries.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Part of the meeting was in camera—