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Government Operations committee  Yes. Thank you for the question. Because digital economy is a growing business, we see more and more indigenous businesses coming and making offers in the sector. At Shared Services Canada, when we are establishing new procurement vehicles in some areas, we will deliberately create what we call an indigenous set-aside.

May 29th, 2023Committee meeting

Sony Perron

Government Operations committee  No, these are agreements that we have to renew periodically. We are currently developing a process to refresh those agreements. We are in the engagement phase with industry to review our tools. Obviously, when a department deals with a vendor to install an application, we don't want to have to transition every two or three years.

May 29th, 2023Committee meeting

Sony Perron

Government Operations committee  All departments have access to cloud solutions. Across the country, eight vendors who meet our safety standards have prequalified. The demand is very diverse. Some departments will want to use cloud computing to place outside services on these platforms, which have a great deal of elasticity.

May 29th, 2023Committee meeting

Sony Perron

Government Operations committee  The funding we got in the budget this year allowed us to get to the recommendation stage this year. It carried the resources we have assigned to the project to pay the firm. You mentioned Ceridian earlier. It's our main partner in there. We have paid their fee until mid-year when the testing will be finishing.

May 29th, 2023Committee meeting

Sony Perron

Government Operations committee  The reason why there is not really a value in the minister meeting with the vendors is that the vendors are testing a solution with us that has already been designed and that they are selling to thousands of businesses across the country and also to government. It's not about designing a tool.

May 29th, 2023Committee meeting

Sony Perron

Government Operations committee  We are finishing the testing phase with these three departments to make sure the commercial-grade solution we are testing can meet the requirements of the federal government's operations for HR and pay going forward. We are identifying any gaps and any changes that will be required in the way we manage HR and pay if we want to leverage this kind of solution, leading to conclusions on the payment accuracy and the ability of the system to provide timely and accurate pay, and we are making sure we can address some of the complex scenarios that exist in the federal public service.

May 29th, 2023Committee meeting

Sony Perron

Public Accounts committee  It is a fair assessment. It goes faster. If I'm asked to put together 25 servers, I will take days, weeks, to procure and install. This could be there tomorrow night if we use a hyperscaler.

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Sony Perron

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, there are not cost savings in all instances. There are cost savings if we are taking what Catherine described as a “smart” model or approach, or some type of.... I could use the word “workload”. It's easier to describe, rather than “data application”. There are cost savings, but we need to do the detailed analysis before we go there, because it's difficult to just go in and go out.

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Sony Perron

Public Accounts committee  Usually, to make it—

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Sony Perron

Public Accounts committee  We try to avoid what we call “lift and shift” by taking a workload from a legacy data centre and bringing it to the cloud. There is an element of modernization, and there is a business there. I think, as my colleague explained a bit earlier, the analysis of each case depends on the effort we'll put into the modernization and how we are going to spread....

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Sony Perron

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, to continue on the last question, we have some use cases where we are doing it. There is pathfinder work here around the cloud. There are things we never did that we are doing. We never take a risk with the quality, the security, the privacy—this is always attached—but in terms of the business, we are experimenting to some extent, so it's why starting small is very important, namely, to learn and scale up.

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Sony Perron

Public Accounts committee  Thank you for the question, Mr. Chair. It's very complicated, but I think I will start the answer. When we close legacy data centres and bring these workloads into an enterprise data centre, yes, there are savings, because the scale and infrastructure in the enterprise data centre give us better reliability and security.

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Sony Perron

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Theophilos, do we have any details regarding the criteria that have been added?

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Sony Perron

Public Accounts committee  As far as the second part of the question, the implementation of these contracts will be in early April. So, we are there. In terms of the clauses that will be added to the contracts and to the calls for tenders, I'm sure Shared Services Canada or Public Services and Procurement Canada will be able to provide that information to the clerk in the next few weeks.

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Sony Perron

Public Accounts committee  Thank you for the question. As I mentioned earlier, Shared Services Canada and Public Services and Procurement Canada are committed to working with industry to determine how best to require the information necessary to assess the environmental impact of service proposals in future bids for cloud services.

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Sony Perron