Foreign Affairs committee  You know, one thing I'm bringing to this organization is that I am the first president who has a career in international development. In my career in international development, results-based is what we call aid effectiveness. Aid effectiveness means that you need to focus your program on where you can do better on the ground.

Foreign Affairs committee  Go ahead.

Foreign Affairs committee  Yes, but you're not letting me say that I went from Hillary Clinton's office to the American think tanks, to the Congressional and Senate committees, to the National Security Council—

Foreign Affairs committee  —and everywhere I maintained that a new governance model was needed. You know, the existing governance model—

Foreign Affairs committee  Absolutely not; on the contrary. There is no contradiction between the mandate of Rights and Democracy being to give effect to the International Charter of Human Rights and Canada's foreign policy being the business of the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade. Let me give you an example of rights and democracy that concerns Rights and Democracy.

Foreign Affairs committee  I'll give you an example.

Foreign Affairs committee  Can I give you an example?

Foreign Affairs committee  Rights and Democracy's programming is the programming of Rights and Democracy. I'll give you an example. When I was in Mauritania, the American government, at the time of the first coup d'état, publicly spoke out—

Foreign Affairs committee  Yes you do.

Foreign Affairs committee  Let me finish.

Foreign Affairs committee  Mr. Gauthier went to China. He was head of the delegation and replaced the president. I asked some questions. The fees he requested are those normally requested by people who belong to other boards of directors in Canada. What he billed covered seven travel days, three preparation days and one day for the report and briefing.

Foreign Affairs committee  Madame, the interpretation made of my statement appeared on L'actualité's website.

Foreign Affairs committee  I came back from Haiti and I made a lot of statements. I also worked in Haiti and I'm going to explain the briefings that I gave. I've always maintained the same—

Foreign Affairs committee  I have always held the same position, Madame.

Foreign Affairs committee  No, I have always held the same position. We need a new governance model in order to be able to rebuild that country. This new—