Public Accounts committee  Yes, it's working.

Public Accounts committee  Yes. I would say we do. I would also say we care. We care about ensuring that we offer the offenders who come into our custody what they require so that they don't return to custody. If they return to custody, for us that's a failure. We want them to stay in the community. That's why we have a national elders working group.

Public Accounts committee  First of all, they need to meet certain criteria. It depends on the offence. If it's an offence against a child, they wouldn't meet the criteria. Again, we work very closely with child services.

Public Accounts committee  In regard to transfers, sometimes transfers occur because there's a particular reason: Maybe the woman at Grand Valley would no longer be safe and that's why she's transferred. When they are closer to release, normally we look at their release plan. If a woman's release plan is in the Pacific region in B.C. and that's where she has her community supports, normally we would transfer the woman closer so that she can be released in an environment where she's going to have supports.

Public Accounts committee  This is something we've been discussing.

Public Accounts committee  Yes, exactly.

Public Accounts committee  During COVID, because we didn't want people to travel, we started having training at our regional facilities. Obviously, that helps.

Public Accounts committee  At this point, as I said, we're discussing it.

Public Accounts committee  As a result of COVID, though, there is training happening in the Prairie region.

Public Accounts committee  Again, we have a staff complement of approximately 18,000. Obviously, COVID has been really hard on everyone.

Public Accounts committee  We have the resources. Actually, with Bill C-83, we got resources for structured intervention units and also for enhanced health care.

Public Accounts committee  Pardon me?

Public Accounts committee  We have one in every women's facility.

Public Accounts committee  No. Every year we do an environmental scan. We look at what's coming. It's Dr. Motiuk who does that with his team. We look at the population profile and the forecast. Obviously, then, we prepare for that. As I said, the main other thing is that there's going to be an indigenous-informed gender-informed security classification process for indigenous offenders.

Public Accounts committee  We're in the third year. It's a five-year MOU with the University of Regina.