Canadian Heritage committee  Okay. That's very good. Going back to the gaps in the system, I'd be interested to hear from your expertise any recommendations you have for this system, to improve it and to make sure that, even if they are just allegations, people are aware and people follow up. We really don't want to see this happen ever again.

Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you very much. I'd like to turn to you next, Mr. Wallbridge. I believe I heard you say in your opening statement that provinces have abandoned athletes. You were talking about basic workplace rights that are required. When we go forward with a national inquiry in this country, what will the onus be on the provinces?

Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you, Chair. I would also like to extend my thanks to all the witnesses for their really compelling and important testimony here today. I'd like to follow on in that same vein of finding out what other jurisdictions have done well. I'd like to go to you, Ms. Denhollander.

Canadian Heritage committee  That's exactly my point. Instead of being good corporate citizens, and working with legislators, you're trying to strong-arm us. You're trying to intimidate us. You're not engaging thoughtfully in the parliamentary process like everyone else. I believe you've harmed Canadians with your tests that block news access.

Canadian Heritage committee  A labour force evolution...that's interesting. Thank you. I've heard from you that the news sector needs to innovate, and it needs to do a better job of monetization. I can tell you, in 20-plus years in journalism, it has never made money. It's never been about making money. It's a public service.

Canadian Heritage committee  I would counter and say that a lot of journalists tell stories in order to inform their local communities. This is part of the journalism that we really value in Canada. As we've heard today, Google has already made a whole bunch of deals with news organizations all over Canada.

Canadian Heritage committee  It's an attempt to intimidate Parliament, sir. Those were my questions, thank you very much.

Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you, Chair. I will happily take those five-plus minutes. I want to go back to the comment that you made earlier about your difficulty in accessing a particular news article. I just want to make the comment that when Google uses tactics like blocking Canadians' access to news sources and information, it fails to be a reliable service for consumers.

Canadian Heritage committee  That's a good point, thank you. We know that links are just one way that news is accessed. If Google starts pivoting to AI, describe how users would access news.

Canadian Heritage committee  That's an interesting point. When you're talking about how Bard develops and trains, is it using news content in its training?

Canadian Heritage committee  I imagine the Bard model can use news content with no attribution, and it's capable of writing convincing articles, but we don't know how accurate it is.

Canadian Heritage committee  I'm not sure if I understand that entirely. Tell me whether you think Bard could replace journalists, for example.

Canadian Heritage committee  No, please, I'd like to hear from Mr. Walker. Please continue.

Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you, sir. I think my time is up.

Canadian Heritage committee  Okay. That's fair enough. Thank you, Mr. Walker. We've heard a lot about links today. You or a Google representative said that these tests were designed specifically to assess the potential impacts of Bill C-18 on how news is linked to Google Search and Google Discovery. We've heard this several times today.