Fisheries committee  All this certifying body can do is decide that something is certified and they'll let you put their label on it—

Fisheries committee  —or it's not certified and they won't let you put their label on it.

Fisheries committee  Some countries, and in particular some retailers, have said publicly that they will only stock or sell certified, and in some cases, MSC-certified, fish. Most retailers have said something about going with fish that they have evidence to prove has been sustainably fished or that is certified or MSC certified.

Fisheries committee  It is a challenge, absolutely no question. What's going to be very interesting—and I personally think one of the big challenges for these types of certifications—is fisheries such as lobster. In fisheries such as lobster, it is a unique process that doesn't fit easily into the standard approaches.

Fisheries committee  There are two different things. In the case of the Monterey Bay Aquarium list—

Fisheries committee  —they're actually coming up with their own list. That's not certified. The certification process is through MSC or in the case of aquaculture.... What's it called?

Fisheries committee  I'd start with integrated fisheries management plans. I think we have 170 formal fisheries, and we have formal integrated fisheries management plans for 130 or so of them across the country. We do it through consultation with the industry and other groups. It starts with the Fisheries Act.

Fisheries committee  We do it, and when the certification process is under way, that's just a test to see if we indeed have it, but so far we've always done it.

Fisheries committee  We would agree. I think, though, there are independent third party reviews of it that show, as I recall, we're in the top three in some reports that we've seen. Nadia?

Fisheries committee  They say that there's usually and just about always some conditions on the certification. For the most part, these are things that are in our work plan. It's a question of whether we were planning to do it that year. The challenge is, with respect to extra science work or extra habitat work or extra work on the precautionary approach framework, we have our own plans about what needs to be done which year and what's most urgent.

Fisheries committee  We can get you the list, certainly.

Fisheries committee  You have asked two things. I'll start with the first one, and then I'll ask Nadia to answer the second one. In terms of the tests, there are really three sets of tests. Test number one is the health of and the management of the target stock. What is the state of that stock, whether it's flounder, shrimp, or whatever, in terms of stock status, reference points, recovery, rebuilding?

Fisheries committee  More than 50%—

Fisheries committee  It's all of them, a mixture: many of the shrimp fisheries, a couple of the crab fisheries, some of the groundfish fisheries—

Fisheries committee  —and scallops. The lobster fisheries are currently in assessment, and don't have it yet; one does have it.