Government Operations committee  Mr. McCauley, the pay one is an exception. As you know, for us to pick a number at this point would be extremely difficult. Taking the aspirational one is the best second choice.

Government Operations committee  Those were announced in the budget. They are not in the main estimates.

Government Operations committee  In the case of PSPC.

Government Operations committee  We can certainly report on it when we draw money, and when we're here, we can tell you. At this point, they're not in the main estimates. We're at the point where these are at the budget level. We do obviously have a very good sense of what they are, but it's not finalized.

Government Operations committee  On those two. if we want to access the money we'll have to do it. I don't know if that reassures you but that's part of what we have to do to be able to access some of that money.

Government Operations committee  I don't know, Marty, if you want to add something or maybe Ron.

Government Operations committee  It was that move from the fall that was moved to the spring. That's when they said not to go ahead.

Government Operations committee  Everybody was aware of it because they moved. The launch was supposed to be in the fall.

Government Operations committee  Yes. I was aware that IBM was engaged with the team, and the team decided not to go ahead and to actually move it after discussions with the DMs, and the whole process. That part was known by everyone.

Government Operations committee  There are obviously jurisdictional issues with the federal government compared to the provincial government, but what we're looking at—

Government Operations committee  What we're looking at is the adjudication process, and we're looking at the terms of payment. In that sense, yes, it would.

Government Operations committee  I believe that's the apparel one.

Government Operations committee  In terms of the community benefits, it's information gathering. We're going to gather the information. There's a possibility of asking the contractors to provide that information. So no—I think we've answered this before—there hasn't been any costing yet.

Government Operations committee  It's still the case.

Government Operations committee  I think the good news this year is that, as you've probably noticed, the plan is totally different. We had to review our indicators. There are a number of indicators for which we won't be able to do that because they're entirely new. The purpose is to be more reflective of what we're doing.