Government Operations committee  There were no executives.

Government Operations committee  One executive did.

Government Operations committee  Of course. My background was in large capital projects and project delivery. I started working entirely in the private sector, so I was working with large energy companies, renewable power companies and Canadian mining companies on their work both in Canada and around the world.

Government Operations committee  Given my background, I joined Infrastructure Ontario in late 2012. I think the work we've done in Ontario to get more infrastructure built over the last decade has used this idea of hybrid models, such that you're bringing in private sector expertise—engineering firms, architecture firms, construction firms—and private finance where it's helpful, while still keeping public ownership of the assets.

Government Operations committee  Thank you for the question. The creation of the CIB predates my joining. As I mentioned, I joined in November 2020. My understanding—

Government Operations committee  I don't have an awareness of that. I'm sorry.

Government Operations committee  Yes, that's correct.

Government Operations committee  Thanks for the question, Ms. Lewis. Yes, I did hire Mr. Robins. He previously worked at Infrastructure Ontario as well. He had left McKinsey on or about, I think, 2014, had gone back to school, and worked at Infrastructure Ontario. I was part of hiring him. Mr. Jaswal joined us through an open competitive process through our HR department.

Government Operations committee  I'm sorry, but no, he didn't work at McKinsey with me. I left McKinsey in 2012. I believe he was there from 2016 to 2018. We didn't know each other at all.

Government Operations committee  That's my understanding. That was part of the work of the committee, yes.

Government Operations committee  There are four of us, to my knowledge—the three the member mentioned previously, and also my executive assistant.

Government Operations committee  No. Mr. Robins, who's the head of strategy, is in an executive position. He helps us identify investment priorities and the portfolios of investments we should make. Mr. Jaswal leads our work on portfolio strategy, on how much money to allocate across different investment goals, but that's not an executive position.

Government Operations committee  My understanding is there were three separate contracts, all prior to my time. One had two phases to it, but there were three different pieces of work, yes.

Government Operations committee  Yes, that's right—exactly.

Government Operations committee  No, I wasn't. Those all predate my time at the CIB. I wasn't here. I was working for the province at the time.