Justice committee  The act itself contains schedules already; the schedules of drugs are already set out. The precursors are listed in the various schedules.

Justice committee  The first bill I brought forward that I was the officer on dealt with the amendments to corporate criminal liability, back in 2003. The section for dealing with corporate liability—“organizations”, they're called—for offences requiring intention envisions there being somebody in

Justice committee  Under the amendment that has been put forward, that is correct, because they aren't under item 18.

Justice committee  In fact, I believe it would, strangely enough.

Justice committee  Yes. The punishment is much more severe.

Justice committee  You were wondering how...

Justice committee  ...we decided on a term of 10 years.

Justice committee  To some extent, every decision made is arbitrary.

Justice committee  The penalty is seven years. However, trafficking or production are rather more serious offences.

Justice committee  I'll respond to the first part of the question, which is where we got this from. I apologize for suggesting that things are arbitrary. There are categories. This punishment reflects what you would find under paragraph 5(3)(b) of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, which is

Justice committee  Possession is three, trafficking is ten for a schedule 3 drug under paragraph 5(3)(b).

Justice committee  Yes, because the current bill has nothing. It's section 46, which says that if nothing else is provided, it's three years. So three years is for the intention to traffic. We suggested that ten years better reflects section 5 now.

Justice committee  That reflects some of the comments made by the chair. The report was specifically on methamphetamine. I don't think anybody on this committee would be particularly thrilled if, on a charge of having all the precursors to produce methamphetamine, the person was able to get off by

Justice committee  In the way it is written now and with the amendment we were asked to help with, which was aimed specifically at methamphetamine, you would not catch any of the other drugs in schedule 1; it's only that one. It refers to item 18 in the amendment we've put forward. A person who cou

Justice committee  There is a limit in the act right now, and there's certainly no legislation coming forward that I'm aware of that deals with raising the penalties for precursor chemicals. Until they are put together into other things, precursors are not as dangerous; therefore, if you just happe