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Transport committee It's because they already have a program in place, a well known program that is not in the legislation. If we want to have it in ours, I think we should make sure that everything that is reported under the Railway Safety Act goes to one agency only, so that we don't have complaints from both sides and have two separate groups...
March 10th, 2011Committee meeting
Luc Bourdon
Transport committee Yes, but there's one thing that the current bill was trying to do under SMS. It has tried to change the safety culture in the company, and get the company and the employee to try to resolve their issues first, before they come to us, and have the company put in place a non-punitive reporting system.
March 10th, 2011Committee meeting
Luc Bourdon
Transport committee I don't know, because again, it's a security situation. We don't deal with security. We don't even deal with safety. From a safety standpoint, every inspector who carries out the function of an inspector needs to be qualified as per our own criteria. We do have training programs they need to follow; then they will get their inspector card.
March 10th, 2011Committee meeting
Luc Bourdon
Transport committee Working for us either on a.... I mean, we have people who are hired full time with us, but we do have to bring in people part time.
March 10th, 2011Committee meeting
Luc Bourdon
Transport committee It could happen, yes.
March 10th, 2011Committee meeting
Luc Bourdon
Transport committee It never happened in the past. Usually, when people come on board with us on a contract basis, they work for us. If they've got the qualifications, we may qualify them as railway safety inspectors. The only issue I have with the way it's worded now is that it makes reference to “screening officer”, who are not under the purview of the rail safety directorate.
March 10th, 2011Committee meeting
Luc Bourdon
Transport committee No, the thing is that the Railway Safety Act, the way it's worded now, is what we use to determine who's going to be a rail safety inspector, who reports to my directorate, but it also covers screening officers who are under the security directorate, which is another branch in Transport Canada.
March 10th, 2011Committee meeting
Luc Bourdon
Transport committee It could be, yes.
March 10th, 2011Committee meeting
Luc Bourdon
Transport committee Do you mean the addition of “standards”?
March 10th, 2011Committee meeting
Luc Bourdon
Transport committee It was an omission. It's already in the act, but we forgot, when we drafted this, to include “standards”.
March 10th, 2011Committee meeting
Luc Bourdon
Transport committee You're right; there's a mistake between the French and English.
March 10th, 2011Committee meeting
Luc Bourdon
Transport committee It's because they added the word “standards”, and therefore they put “section 7”, because this is where it is.
March 10th, 2011Committee meeting
Luc Bourdon
Transport committee Yes.
March 10th, 2011Committee meeting
Luc Bourdon
Transport committee Can I just add one more thing, Mr. Chair? We're currently developing some crossing regulations as we speak, and one of the things we had to do was come up with how many lives we believe we're going to save, and how much property damage. The only way we can bring that regulation forward is to justify that we're saving lives and saving some dollars, so it's already accounted for in the process we have to use.
March 10th, 2011Committee meeting
Luc Bourdon
Transport committee We have our lawyers here, so....
March 10th, 2011Committee meeting
Luc Bourdon