Public Safety committee  No, I never said that.

Public Safety committee  It's a hypothetical I'm not going to answer.

Public Safety committee  I never said that.

Public Safety committee  I didn't say any of those things you said, Mr. Holland. What I will say, and I'll repeat, is I don't think you can long remain the head of a national police force if the government of the day does not have confidence in you.

Public Safety committee  I never said any of those words, Mr. Holland.

Public Safety committee  I never said he only did that; you're putting words in my mouth. I am saying that I don't think anyone who works for the government--and I picked the RCMP, but you can pick any national organization where the head works for the government--can long remain in that position if the government of the day does not have confidence in them.

Public Safety committee  I think that's a statement of fact.

Public Safety committee  I think what the Prime Minister did was fine.

Public Safety committee  I think you're asking me impossible questions. I think I've said what my position is. My position, and I include myself in that, is that if the government of the day does not have confidence in me, whichever government that is, whether it's the current government or the previous government, for whom I worked many years as well, I don't think I can long remain in my position.

Public Safety committee  I think I've answered the question, Mr. Holland.

Public Safety committee  No, I believe I have answered the question, Mr. Holland.

Public Safety committee  I would just point out, Mr. Alghabra, that I think that less than 36 hours after the Prime Minister expressed his comments on the 4th, the Commissioner of the RCMP had resigned.

Public Safety committee  And the Commissioner of the RCMP resigned.

Public Safety committee  Yes. I can't tell you the exact stage it's at, but we are maintaining the position.

Public Safety committee  Let me take a try at it. I would say that Mr. Justice O'Connor did explicitly find that Mr. Arar was appropriately a person of interest in the inquiry. So he did make that...about the RCMP, who were the ones investigating. More generally, I would say that CSIS is a very centralized organization by the nature of its being an intelligence organization.