Information & Ethics committee  There was a period before these matters became public, and afterward.

Information & Ethics committee  During the period from November 1995, when my involvement with Mr. Mulroney started, until the spring of 2000, these matters were never discussed. They were starting in the spring of 2000, but we never talked about them in detail.

Information & Ethics committee  It was from January 1988 to August 1991.

Information & Ethics committee  No, I don't remember. I wasn't involved in that file at all.

Information & Ethics committee  I was deputy chief of staff. I handled operations.

Information & Ethics committee  I was not at all aware of that project, except through the media. I remember very clearly that the media talked about a project for Cape Breton.

Information & Ethics committee  Did he inform me about it? No.

Information & Ethics committee  I did say that.

Information & Ethics committee  The evidence I shall give on this examination shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God.

Information & Ethics committee  [Technical difficulties - Editor] what I said in the media. It's also a fact that I didn't have accurate information.

Information & Ethics committee  At the time I answered those questions, I had never discussed specific amounts with Mr. Mulroney, at any time.

Information & Ethics committee  Pardon me, the amounts in question came from the media.

Information & Ethics committee  I was informed in the spring of 2000 by Mr. Mulroney's lawyer that Mr. Mulroney had received what was described to me as a retainer. I was told that that payment had been made to him in cash by Mr. Schreiber and that it had been made in three instalments. I didn't ask exactly how much money was involved, but I asked what order of magnitude we were talking about.