Public Accounts committee  I'm sorry, are you asking us what we are doing to better monitor results, etc.?

Public Accounts committee  I'm sorry, but we don't know the answer here now. When we worked on the tripartite framework, we dealt with the province to try to offer the same kinds of services by providing funding necessary for those. But I don't personally have those data right here.

Public Accounts committee  Well, we do. We have funding agreements and there are criteria in the funding agreements. It's true that we need to improve how we are monitoring results. We request reports from the recipients of the funding agreements, but we need to make improvements.

Public Accounts committee  Children in care is a big outcome. We use children in care as one of the outcome indicators, but with the introduction of more prevention, we need to find better indicators reflecting the efforts made in prevention. So we're working on performance indicators now with the other parties.

Public Accounts committee  We currently have two formulas in operation. We have a formula for those provinces where we haven't moved to the new model. Under that formula, we reimburse all charges for kids who are actually in care, and that's why the costs have gone up so dramatically over time. There were comments made about the fact that under the old formula there wasn't funding provided to be able to permit agencies to provide prevention services.