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Finance committee  Thank you, Mr. Baylor. That's a no. Can you say that all farmers will receive at least 50% of the carbon tax they paid back? Please answer yes or no.

February 14th, 2022Committee meeting

Philip LawrenceConservative

Finance committee  You can't say today, even though—

February 14th, 2022Committee meeting

Philip LawrenceConservative

Finance committee  —you're in front of a parliamentary committee—

February 14th, 2022Committee meeting

Philip LawrenceConservative

Finance committee  Thank you very much. I don't mean to be rude, but I am aware of the legislation. My question was about what adjustment was made in the legislation for different types of farming and for regional differences.

February 14th, 2022Committee meeting

Philip LawrenceConservative

Finance committee  Thank you. This is completely inequitable to many different farmers in many different regions who are in many different types of farming industry, and no adjustment is made for that, whereas an exemption automatically will adjust for the different types of farms and the different types of sectors, perfectly.

February 14th, 2022Committee meeting

Philip LawrenceConservative

Finance committee  Okay, so we're talking about millions of dollars—$2 million to $3 million—whereas an exemption, by its very essence, doesn't cost anything to administer. How long will a farmer have to wait for the rebate versus the exemption? I would appreciate the chair's leniency here with my time, as the officials were taking ample time.

February 14th, 2022Committee meeting

Philip LawrenceConservative

Finance committee  I would just ask the chair for 20 more seconds, just to sum up here. As I said, some of the participants took a long time to answer. Mr. Chair, if we compare an exemption to the rebate on the equity, on the recovery percentage, on the cost to administer and on the cost of borrowing, farmers are the losers.

February 14th, 2022Committee meeting

Philip LawrenceConservative

Finance committee  Thank you very much. My questions will focus on part 1(d), which is the carbon tax rebate for farmers. I would be happy if someone could respond to those questions accordingly. I want to start with this. Are you familiar with Bill C-216 and Bill C-234, private members' bills in the 43rd and 44th Parliaments?

February 14th, 2022Committee meeting

Philip LawrenceConservative

Finance committee  Yes. I meant Bill C-206. My apologies.

February 14th, 2022Committee meeting

Philip LawrenceConservative

February 14th, 2022Committee meeting

Philip LawrenceConservative

Finance committee  They propose an exemption, as opposed to the rebate. I want to go through a series of questions, Mr. King, and compare an exemption to a deduction. With respect to the recovery of the carbon tax, an exemption will recover 100% for 100% of farmers. What percentage will this rebate recover for our farmers?

February 14th, 2022Committee meeting

Philip LawrenceConservative

Finance committee  I'm sorry, sir. I meant per farmer.

February 14th, 2022Committee meeting

Philip LawrenceConservative

Finance committee  What percentage of farmers will get 100% recovery?

February 14th, 2022Committee meeting

Philip LawrenceConservative

Finance committee  We have documents. I kind of suspected that—

February 14th, 2022Committee meeting

Philip LawrenceConservative

Finance committee  Please provide it. We're going to get documents that show what the average recovery is per farmer and how many farmers will get 100% recovery. Can you can undertake that?

February 14th, 2022Committee meeting

Philip LawrenceConservative