Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you very much. Madam Chair. Through you, I appreciate a desire to share a greater sense of security with your family, with your constituents and with Canadians more broadly. I can assure you, though, that the characterizations you just laid out are not accurate. I am not aware of any intelligence that suggested there were munitions and IEDs attached to any of the vehicles coming.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Chair, through you, this is unfortunately inaccurate information. I think those details will be provided through the important study of Justice Rouleau. I will agree to participate, however I'm called, to that inquiry or other standing committees. Unfortunately, these are not adequately informed positions.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Chair. That is an excellent question. I hope I answer it, but I will frame it a little bit differently. A boundary change is a boundary change. I think that's probably the least challenging aspect of what you're trying to study. Changing the jurisdiction is the problematic piece.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Chair. Through you, just to clarify again, and I said it earlier on in a response, my priority as the chief of the police of jurisdiction here, facing the brunt of that national security crisis, was resources.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  It was 1,800 that became 2,000, but we needed supports well beyond that, resources that included accessing heavy tow trucks for the removal of large vehicles and other aspects that eventually came into the mix that allowed for the successful resolution.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Chair. Through you, while I appreciate the attempt to draw a nexus between the scale and complexity of the G20 and other G7 and G20 events that have taken place in Canada, I do not think it is a comparison worthy of the discussions we need to have in order to really prepare for these types of events going forward.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I appreciate what you've just read. Madam Chair, through you, I'm not aware of the statement, so I can't validate its accuracy. What I will say.... It comes back to your previous point, so thank you for the question. What I will say is that we did not have enough resources to deal with the portions of the events taking place here in the police jurisdiction that I was responsible for and to provide proper, adequate and effective police services to the city of Ottawa.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'll defer to my colleague Vernon for his comment.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Chair. Through you, it's an excellent framing of the challenge that this committee has taken on. First of all, I would say to be as open as you can to considering all the environmental changes that are available to you. I suspect that list will quickly narrow to a few.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I don't have the exact numbers, but they were, on scale, over the course of that period, between Muskoka-Huntsville...probably 10,000 assets in and around that area.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Chair. Through you, again, I'll repeat from my principal presentation and other answers. For me, the number one thing as chief of Police in Ottawa was resources. On the order of magnitude, the Ottawa police has roughly 1,200 officers. At any given time, 10% to 15%, potentially 20% of them, are not available for duty.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Chair. Through you, I'm not aware of any particular increase in absenteeism. Like every sector of society, we were dealing with the ongoing fallout of the global pandemic. I think the Ottawa Police Service actually did a remarkable job in keeping their members healthy and well during that extended period.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  That's correct.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Toronto hosted the G20 in 2010, yes.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Chair, through you, I thank the member for her excellent question. I actually think you answered the question excellently yourself. Lessons learned shared quickly amongst a broader community, in this case the policing community, allowed other jurisdictions to understand the full nature of the risk and the threat that had arrived in Ottawa prior to its arriving in those other jurisdictions.