Public Safety committee  I knew there were questions raised in the media about its being unclear shortly after; I don't know what day, but shortly after.

Public Safety committee  That could be. I just didn't follow it that closely.

Public Safety committee  I believe it was announced around January 28 or 29, 2004. I do recall that. By then I was in Public Safety.

Public Safety committee  That's correct.

Public Safety committee  I would assume so, but I'm guessing.

Public Safety committee  I can't speak to that. I have never discussed the issue with Mr. Easter. I was in—

Public Safety committee  Getting ready for today, I did read Mr. Easter's and Ms. McLellan's testimony, and I didn't read that they took offence. I think it is fair to say they disagreed.

Public Safety committee  Well, it would be, Mr. MacKenzie, but to my recollection, Mr. Zaccardelli wanted to come back to the committee from very shortly after he was here. I can't speak to the communications, but I do recall that. And I do know that the commissioner—

Public Safety committee  Yes, I did.

Public Safety committee  I don't disagree with that. All I'm saying, Mr. MacKenzie, is that I agree it would be natural that he would want to come back. It's just my understanding that he wanted to come back before that letter was written. That's the difficulty I'm having--

Public Safety committee  I think it was just under a year.

Public Safety committee  Mr. MacKenzie, the only way I can do this is to refer to Mr. O'Connor's report, because I was in the defence department at the time. So I don't actually have firsthand knowledge of any of that period with regard to Mr. Arar.

Public Safety committee  That's a large question to answer in a short period of time.

Public Safety committee  I guess I would say that overall there are some things we do as well or better and some things we don't do as well. Let me give you a concrete example, which is probably all I can do in the time available. I think we have lessons to learn from the British on how security agencies and the police work together.

Public Safety committee  Perhaps I could start, Mr. Calkins, and then I'll let Mr. Elliott fill in with what I might omit. I think all of us who read Mr. Justice O'Connor's report would say it's a very constructive and helpful report. If you look at his recommendations, a vast majority of them are forward-looking, about things we should do to improve our system.