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Agriculture committee  This is a new program.

May 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Forbes

Agriculture committee  Well, this program was not in the works prior to COVID. We have industry frequently making requests around new programming money, including the processing industry, but this program was not contemplated in its current form prior to COVID.

May 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Forbes

Agriculture committee  My answer would be yes. It's obviously subject to the specifics they would be looking for. I'd just add, and sorry to be lengthy, that there are other Agriculture Canada or provincial programs that exist now that can support processing investment, too. If that did proceed and the new owners, if that's the case, were to come forward and engage with us, we'd certainly be happy to look at what was available in the existing suite of programs, including the $77 million.

May 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Forbes

Agriculture committee  There is a range of programs available. In our engagement with the sector, whether it's individually or often through organizations, we try to look at what is available to start off with, whether it's through Farm Credit or other lenders, other programs—

May 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Forbes

Agriculture committee  Sorry. Just to be clear, with Farm Credit, a big chunk of that is deferrals, so it's not actually adding debt but deferring payments. However, I would certainly hear that point, that farmers are very clear about not wanting new debt. Certainly in our discussions, if we find out that programs are not working for farmers, if they're our programs, we can often do things about them, and if they're from other parts of the government, we work with our colleagues to look at whether there are solutions available to help make them better targeted for the farmers.

May 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Forbes

Agriculture committee  Okay, I'll try to be quick. For temporary foreign workers, as I mentioned, there has been a big effort to make sure they're brought in in a way that respects public health, treats their own personal health as paramount and also gets them to the farms where they can make a contribution.

May 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Forbes

Agriculture committee  I think the big issue comes in a couple of places, but it has been in the manufacturing or transformation side that we've obviously seen some challenges. As one of the previous questions focused on, we may see a lot of manufacturers and food processors who need to take steps to adjust their processing systems to deal with a world where we're trying to mitigate COVID-19.

May 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Forbes

Agriculture committee  I'm going to say yes, because it is money that was not going to be spent until that announcement was made today.

May 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Forbes

Agriculture committee  Last year, for example, we did not spend anywhere near $100 million through AgriRecovery. These monies are new to deal with the specifics in the cattle and pork sectors right now, and as I said, it could be made available to further industries if needed.

May 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Forbes

Agriculture committee  Are you asking how long it was in the decision-making process?

May 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Forbes

Agriculture committee  It came out today. We've been working on these kinds of programs. As I said before, as the crisis has developed, we have certainly looked at what we need to do to respond. I would just say that we also have, under the agricultural partnership programming with the provinces, existing programs for food processing capacity, and they have certainly been available in certain cases for a range of things like investments in slaughterhouses.

May 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Forbes

Agriculture committee  I think one of the options that's part of the surplus food program was the idea of getting product that was otherwise not going to have a value or have a hard time returning a value to the farmer or the processor from where it was to where it will be used by those in need. That's hopefully bringing value.

May 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Forbes

Agriculture committee  I'll let Mr. Seppey provide a few more details about the program, as he is the expert in that area.

May 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Forbes

Agriculture committee  To be honest with you, this is a bit of a new area for us. I think one of our first steps is to use existing relationships. We have developed pretty good relationships with a network of national food banks, which themselves have regional food bank networks. We're going to sit down with them in the coming days to discuss the nature of the program and how we might quickly get at some of the key surplus products that are out there and that people need.

May 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Forbes

Agriculture committee  In any given year, we have the authority to spend up to $125 million. This year we haven't really spent any of that thus far, so this is that $125 million. We're announcing effectively that we'll make all of that available, if needed, starting with the beef and pork ranchers and farmers, and then, if needed, in other areas.

May 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Forbes