Transport committee  So Catherine McKenna—

Transport committee  —is essentially giving you your talking points on this.

Transport committee  You're exempting the largest emitters, Minister.

Transport committee  You're exempting the largest emitters, Minister.

Transport committee  No stakeholder has told you that.

Transport committee  Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you, Minister, for being here. It's great to see the minister show up for supplementary estimates, unlike the infrastructure minister. I feel we all collectively agree that was a bit of a disaster at the last meeting. Minister, we have a premier from Alberta who's requesting increased rail capacity—up to 120,000 extra cars.

Transport committee  Speaking of pipeline capacity, just to pick up my colleague's line of questioning, you appear to be losing the argument on that one with Minister McKenna as well. We've heard from a number of stakeholders at this committee, through our travel across the country, that initiatives like the carbon tax are detrimental to their competitive nature.

Transport committee  Be clear, Minister. Have you or have you not heard that the carbon tax is detrimental to competitiveness?

Transport committee  You haven't heard that from people.

Transport committee  Madam Chair, do you mind if each gets a recorded vote?

Transport committee  Thank you, Madam Chair. Reflecting on some of the questions that were asked today, it's very clear, quite frankly, that the witness hasn't been able to answer any of the questions. The only question that she has been able to answer was the ability to get back to us on the $477 million for the Canada Infrastructure Bank.

Transport committee  He's saying there will be penalties applied. You're saying you'll be—

Transport committee  It appears the minister can speak about these things, Deputy Minister. Has your department been advised to find ways to ensure the budget is balanced by 2019?

Transport committee  You have a significant stake. You spend over $180 billion in infrastructure. Have you been asked for ways to ensure that the budget is balanced in 2019?

Transport committee  Have you been asked by the minister to find ways to balance the budget in 2019?