Information & Ethics committee  Yes, I was.

Information & Ethics committee  That's correct, because I had assurances from Dr. Fournier that was the case.

Information & Ethics committee  The funds have been returned to the donor.

Information & Ethics committee  I wasn't involved in the repayment.

Information & Ethics committee  I was not involved in the repayment.

Information & Ethics committee  Correct.

Information & Ethics committee  I can't tell you.

Information & Ethics committee  No. As I say, I was not involved.

Information & Ethics committee  I was satisfied that it had gone to the donor.

Information & Ethics committee  I talked to our counsel and to people in the foundation involved in repaying it, repaying the donation to the donor.

Information & Ethics committee  No. We never got to that, frankly.

Information & Ethics committee  No, I had told her that I should not be involved in the oversight.

Information & Ethics committee  I can't recall the precise wording of the donations policy of that day, but we had senior people on our staff of excellent good judgment, and that, I believe, would be an important check on—

Information & Ethics committee  Of...?

Information & Ethics committee  I wasn't asked to recuse myself from it, because it would have been the full board, but it didn't review the terms of reference of the inquiry or the review—