Foreign Affairs committee  But the organization of an international Islamic conference can bring some kind of positive input to the issue by engaging Muslim countries—57 of them—and also by providing forces. Why should Canadian, Americans, Dutch, British, and others do it?

Foreign Affairs committee  But the main complaint is not that we, the west, or the international community is forcing on the Afghans something they don't want. There are some such complaints from people who are inclined to be more Islamic and also from many people, because among the things we have brought there are the unintended consequences of a large presence of foreigners with a lot of money, spending their money and living there, which has created, especially in Kabul, some severe social problems.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  On the fact that we have so much hope with this new generation coming up, is it hope or are they being led into the philosophy that their leader would have them believe, in which the only way to change is through fundamentalist Islam or militant Islamic action? What do you think Canada can specifically do to encourage the demographic of the young populace in Iran to take action? How can we engage them from here?

Questions on the Order Paper  Within Third Committee this year, Canada has co-sponsored the following resolutions: Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees Assistance to refugees, returnees and displaced persons in Africa Implementation of the World Programme of Action Concerning Disabled Persons: realizing the Millennium Development Goals for persons with disabilities Policies and programmes involving youth: youth in the global economy--Promoting youth participation in social and economic development Follow-up to the Second World Assembly on Aging Intensification of efforts to eliminate all forms of violence against women Eliminating rape and other forms of sexual violence in all their manifestations, including as instruments to achieve political or military objectives United Nations Development Fund for Women Term of office of the members of the Consultative Committee on the United Nations Development Fund for Women Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women Supporting efforts to end obstetric fistula The girl child Rights of the child Torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment Declaration on the Right and Responsibility of Individuals, Groups and Organs of Society to Promote and Protect Universally Recognized Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms Strengthening the role of the United Nations in enhancing the effectiveness of the principle of periodic and genuine elections and the promotion of democratization Protection of and assistance to internally displaced persons Elimination of all forms of intolerance and of discrimination based on religion or belief Human rights in the administration of justice Effective promotion of the Declaration on the Rights of Persons Belonging to National or Ethnic, Religious and Linguistic Minorities Protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms while countering terrorism The right to food Situation of human rights in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea Situation of human rights in Myanmar Situation of human rights in the Islamic Republic of Iran Situation of human rights in Belarus Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities and its Optional Protocol Strengthening the United Nations Crime Prevention and Criminal Justice Programme, in particular its technical cooperation capacity International cooperation against the world drug problem.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Last year Canada evacuated more than 30,000 dual citizens from Lebanon. We have dual-citizen Canadians fighting as part of the Islamic Courts Union in Somalia, and some dual citizens were in Afghanistan fighting on the side of the country's enemy--

Public Safety committee  If I tell them I don't have a beard and don't dress like a member of the Taliban, they'll say I'm a sleeper agent. But, if I have a beard and am a devoted follower of Islam, they will take me for an extremist. An extremist can also be deported if he presents a threat. If I'm unmarried, I pass for someone who could become a suicide bomber; if I am married, it's nothing but a cover.

Public Safety committee  They said that I no longer had the profile of a sleeper agent. Indeed, the Director of Sunni-Islamic Counterterrorism—I don't know his name because it's a secret, since he is a CSIS agent—testified before the court and stated that he had no evidence that Mr. Charkaoui was a member of al-Qaeda.

Public Safety committee  Okay. We'll now move over to the Canadian Council on American-Islamic Relations. Please introduce yourself, sir, and go ahead.

Public Safety committee  Thank you. I believe I have 10 minutes?

Public Safety committee  I'll ask you, gentlemen, to introduce yourselves. Then we have the Canadian Council on American-Islamic Relations and Coalition Justice for Adil Charkaoui. The usual practice at the committee, gentlemen, is that we allow you an introductory statement of approximately 10 minutes, and then we'll have questions and comments from the people who are on the committee.

Public Safety committee  In Germany, it's very much the same thing. You may have heard of the case of Metin Kaplan, who is a radical Islamic imam who was extradited to Turkey. Deportations and returns, stripping of refugee status--I would say it's fairly well established in most of the west European countries that this is an acceptable counter-terrorism tool.

Foreign Affairs committee  Members, in our second hour today we are continuing our study of Canada's mission in Afghanistan. We have with us this afternoon His Excellency Omar Samad, Ambassador of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan to Canada. We want to thank you, Mr. Ambassador, for taking the time and making the effort to be with us here today. This committee, as you know, the foreign affairs and international development committee, is concerned about both parts of the undertaking that Canada has in Afghanistan, not only the military perspective but also the developmental perspective.

Foreign Affairs committee  Today we will begin a briefing with the Canadian Food Security Policy Group, and in our second hour, after noon, before our committee business, we will continue our study of Canada's mission in Afghanistan and hear from Omar Samad, Ambassador of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan to Canada. First, for our briefing, as witnesses we have Stuart Clark, chair of the Canadian Foodgrains Bank, Canadian Food Security Policy Group. Also, we have Joshua Mukusya, founder of Utooni Development Project.

Foreign Affairs committee  It did not arise as a terrorist group; it does not have an ideology and theology of terrorism, and especially of international terrorism. Yes, by our standards, it is fundamentalist. It had a limited aim of an Islamic Afghanistan. It's quite different in its origins and aims from al-Qaeda. If it has been driven together with al-Qaeda, that's because of necessity: they both feel attacked. But it can be separated from al-Qaeda.

Public Safety committee  The people who are producing the information to support security certificates are the same people who said that Maher Arar and his wife were Islamic extremists linked to the al-Qaeda terrorist movement; that Mr. Arar was in Washington on September 11, 2001, when he was in San Diego; that he travelled from Quebec when he had a coffee in Ottawa with Mr.