Government Operations committee  Could ArriveCAN ever have been produced to the extent that it has been for $80,000?

Government Operations committee  It's my understanding that this deck was presented to Minh Doan, a key government official who was involved in ArriveCAN, and that particular app had a Distill Mobile logo. If that is correct, who asked you to provide the deck?

Government Operations committee  Okay. You were contacted by the government and told that you were receiving a contract for ArriveCAN. Is there anyone at the CBSA who would have to declare a conflict of interest on contracts you are bidding on?

Government Operations committee  Fast-forward to your time.... How many people did you actually end up recruiting for the ArriveCAN job?

Government Operations committee  ArriveCAN would have been around 35 to 40 people in different capacities, but for the CBSA proper, for the whole three years we were working there, it was over 100.

Government Operations committee  What are we as a committee to make of the fact that you want us to believe that everybody is wrong in their figures except you, yet the invoices you sent to the committee don't add up to the figure you said was spent or was given to you in relation to ArriveCAN?

Government Operations committee  I'm not disputing the fact that $19 million was invoiced through my company monthly; I'm disputing that the $19.1 million is completely attributed to the ArriveCAN application build.

Government Operations committee  We had four or five government officials who were monitoring the quality of our work. There were other prices associated with just ArriveCAN and the application build that we're not privy to. We were not part of the $19.1 million, or the $11 million to $60 million. We were from the $0 to the $11 million, or $19.1 million, depending on which article you want to read.

Government Operations committee  To the extent that you're aware, can you describe how the government may have tracked your performance on ArriveCAN contracts?

Government Operations committee  No, he did not. It was more a case of, “We understand the work you're doing on ArriveCAN.” That's kind of how the introduction started.

Government Operations committee  I think that was in regard to the first contract you received, but, in fact, you received four contracts for ArriveCAN, three of which were non-competitive and one of which was supposed to be competitive. I'm going to ask if you could provide us with the names of the contacts on those contracts.

Government Operations committee  We're going to make a distinction with regard to your contracts as to whether they were for the pandemic, COVID or ArriveCAN. I got that. You will provide—

Government Operations committee  That doesn't seem like something that resonated with what I would have said. I don't think I blamed the contracting for the ArriveCAN. I explained the contracting, saying that there were three sole-sourced national security exemptions.

Government Operations committee  I think the question was about what the ArriveCAN situation reveals about the government's contracting process. That's what you were asked about, and you said that you didn't think that it revealed anything, that you felt like the problem “was not a contracting issue”.

Government Operations committee  PSPC did follow all procurement processes in issuing those contracts for COVID pandemic response, one of which was the ArriveCAN app.