Industry committee  It was 2010. He was pointing to, I believe, the agency for the north.

Industry committee  So Public Accounts.... It had no reference to northern Ontario; it was northern Canada.

Industry committee  For the Department of Industry—and I am making a distinction between the portfolio that includes all the granting councils, the National Research Council of Canada, the Canadian Space Agency...

Industry committee  If you include all that, it is about $7 billion. Now, if you are talking about the department, it is approximately $2.4 billion.

Industry committee  Once again, we must draw a distinction. I will take a close look at the document. For the Department of Industry, the difference is about $200 million.

Industry committee  As a whole... One moment, please. My colleague told me that in the document prepared by Treasury Board, the whole was not added up...

Industry committee  The big expenditure for both granting councils is due to the fact that in the 2010 budget, the government granted additional support for Centres of Excellence in marketing and in research. Before these votes can be approved, the granting agency must—in this case, it is the granting council—make a presentation to Treasury Board and Treasury Board must approve it.

Industry committee  There are three big granting councils in Canada: one is for health, another is for sciences and engineering and another is for social sciences. We can ask all three to send us information. The one that deals with health reports to the Minister of Health, but I can ask for it.

Industry committee  It is important to emphasize that this money is not paid mainly to institutions, but rather to researchers. The researchers are the ones who apply to the various granting councils to get their research projects approved. Thus, for this year, 2010-2011, we can verify how much was granted by the councils and we can send this information to the committee through the chair.

Industry committee  In another committee, your colleague Mr. Vincent wanted to know what Quebec had received within the knowledge infrastructure program. I sent him the list, including the MiQro Innovation project at Sherbrooke University.

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  Yes. It's not new funding. It's part of the $225 million that was put in the 2009 budget, which we have not spent because it took the better part of eight or nine months to do the maps. We had nothing to start off with.

Industry committee  For the sake of program administration, yes.

Industry committee  I'd have to go back to....

Industry committee  We're trying to do the best we can with the available resources that have been awarded to us.