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Environment committee  I don't believe I am, Mr. Woodworth. I believe that the first three years of the implementation of this plan is what we audited. It has always been the intention of that original document that you mentioned, to do a long.... Monitoring takes many years. We need decades of information.

October 8th, 2014Committee meeting

Julie Gelfand

Environment committee  This is a very technical question, and so I am going to pass it over to Bruce to help with this.

October 8th, 2014Committee meeting

Julie Gelfand

Environment committee  We looked through memorandums to cabinet and Treasury Board submissions, and we looked in particular at approximately 47 of them.

October 8th, 2014Committee meeting

Julie Gelfand

Environment committee  Specifics? I'm going to pass it over to Bruce for that level of specificity.

October 8th, 2014Committee meeting

Julie Gelfand

Environment committee  The CEAA 2012 is a brand new piece of legislation. We're only two years into it, so the idea was to do.... You have a name for it—

October 8th, 2014Committee meeting

Julie Gelfand

Environment committee  Right. It's a systems under development audit. That's very specific language for auditors. We were basically looking at how well they were doing in the implementation right at the front end of a new law, as a way of trying to provide guidance and help if things are kind of off track.

October 8th, 2014Committee meeting

Julie Gelfand

Environment committee  In about a third of the cases, there was information that stopped before it got to ministers. It was both positive impacts on the environment that did not go up to ministers and negative impacts on the environment. Now due to the secrecy of the documents, I don't believe we can be specific about those.

October 8th, 2014Committee meeting

Julie Gelfand

Environment committee  I can't answer that question right now. I think we could get back to you.

October 8th, 2014Committee meeting

Julie Gelfand

Environment committee  We'll get back to you with an answer on that. It's a very specific question around the release of methane as the permafrost—

October 8th, 2014Committee meeting

Julie Gelfand

Environment committee  Right: I don't believe that's included in here but I could be wrong, and I don't want to mislead you.

October 8th, 2014Committee meeting

Julie Gelfand

Environment committee  You're asking about a detailed analysis. If you look at paragraph 3.40, you'll see what icebreaking services are provided by the coast guard: ice information, ice routing, escorting individual vessels and convoys, freeing ships beset in ice, maintaining shipping channels and tracks through ice, harbour breakout, and providing supplies for Arctic communities when commercial services are not available.

October 8th, 2014Committee meeting

Julie Gelfand

Environment committee  I don't believe we went into that level of detail. What we did find was that the coast guard has decreased, by 33 ship days, the total time it plans to deploy in the Arctic. At the same time, we know that vessel traffic is increasing. We recommend that the coast guard improve its performance measurement system to assess whether icebreaking services will meet user needs in the future.

October 8th, 2014Committee meeting

Julie Gelfand

Environment committee  Mr. Chair, I'm not sure we did as detailed an analysis as Dennis is recommending or is asking in terms of each ship and what they would do. What we did find was that they're on average 30 years old, that we plan to extend the operation of five of the vessels by anywhere from eight to fifteen years, and that there are no other icebreakers of equal capability to replace the vessels undergoing retrofit.

October 8th, 2014Committee meeting

Julie Gelfand

Environment committee  In fact, we did. We were aware that they were looking at the reporting part of the joint plan, so there was a commitment to issue a report. We knew that the Auditor General of Alberta was looking at the reporting section. The scope of our audit was to look at the federal role.

October 8th, 2014Committee meeting

Julie Gelfand

Environment committee  Environment Canada was responsible for 38 projects. We examined nine of them in detail. Overall, they were on time and on budget.

October 8th, 2014Committee meeting

Julie Gelfand