Public Safety committee  Shucks.

Public Safety committee  Is my time up? I had one little poor question I wanted to ask.

Public Safety committee  Well, yes. Did you know that we have computers today? You can kick it right back in there if they get another offence. It's simply done.

Public Safety committee  Thank you. You were correct on your first statement. It was $50, out of recognition that everyone in society benefits when people are able to reintegrate into society. That was the idea behind the whole program when it first started at $50 and then consequently went up. How do we deal with the other aspect of the problem that you haven't spoken about at all?

Public Safety committee  No one's arguing with you there. That could be easily corrected, but I don't think we should dump it for everybody.

Public Safety committee  I agree.

Public Safety committee  I just wasted it. She should have given it to me quicker.

Public Safety committee  Thank you. Thank you, Wayne. Wayne, Pardons Canada has major centres in every one of our major cities across Canada from coast to coast. They advertise quite extensively that they will help people. I have to wonder at one of the last lines that they have in here: We can help you today.

Public Safety committee  Why don't we look at the Criminal Code and say that with a summary conviction offence, after five years that record is automatically removed? Wouldn't that be simpler? Why not? You're saying that everybody should not have a criminal record. If a person commits a minor summary conviction offence, and after five years—

Public Safety committee  —there has been no repeat, it is automatically rejected out of the system.

Public Safety committee  Oh, yes. You're trying to double or triple it, because I can pay and he can't. I don't think that's fair.

Public Safety committee  I might have been lazy for the last 20 years, and didn't do it and I should have done it. Now I can do it, and I have to pay for it.

Public Safety committee  I agree with you. I'm not disagreeing with you, but you have to admit that there is a cost to do it. Right?

Public Safety committee  All right. What do you expect the outcome will be five years from now when we get roughly 350,000 Canadians applying to have their marijuana convictions removed? What type of cost do you think there will be to government? Should we pay for that just to be nice?

Public Safety committee  I would have thanked you for a little more time.