Natural Resources committee  Yes.

Natural Resources committee  Greenhouse gases are produced when we use mostly carbon-based fuels. What we suggested in the report is that one of the very important technologies that we think Canada should really focus on, right from very basic research through to demonstrations of commercial-scale operations, is a technology broadly described as gasification.

Natural Resources committee  Thank you. In saying what I had to say, my intentions was not, in any sense, to summarize anything said in the report, but rather to make it very clear that we're not going to get to where we want to go simply by trying to use less energy. Ultimately, when we have benign energy systems, we will have a far more energy-intensive society than we have today.

Natural Resources committee  Mr. Chair, now that I've heard him, I am going to do something quite different from what David has done. I want to start by standing back a bit and dealing with some of the very fundamental issues. Often there is confusion in people's thinking about the role of energy in climate change.

Natural Resources committee  We have not coordinated, but I can make my opening remarks fairly brief. I assume I've been invited because I chaired the panel--powerful connections--and I don't know if--